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Northwest radio hello welcome to

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paranormal mysteries of access Northwest

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community radio here in lovely Liverpool

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tonight my guest is someone I've known

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for a couple of years and we started

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talking because of my investigation into

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the Larry Warren fraud and I must admit

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at first I didn't really know what to

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make of him but quickly realized he is

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as ferocious about the truth as most of

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the friends that I've made this past few

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years actually and once I got to know

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Darren I came to understand that he was

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more like me than either of us would

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like to be and that is because we have

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both come literally face to face with a

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craft of unknown origin and what he saw

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changed him forever in an instant it was

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so huge and profound that four years

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later is literally still absolutely

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stunned by it and as I had a hard time

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even process in it which is something

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else I can totally understand because

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it's nearly 22 years since our event but

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it might as well have been last week and

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I guess I could probably say that for

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both of us and he currently researches

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UFOs and the associated topics and like

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myself he's a bit of a fraud buster and

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he runs a Facebook group ET UFO Hunters

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which is a really cool group actually

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and we do a lot of debunking and dismiss

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in and you know trying to find the truth

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in there it's a good bunch of people so

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I'd like to welcome and Darren Cooper to

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the show hi Darren I start her thank you

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for the awesome welcome

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I've actually been dying to talk to you

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for ages because we met last year didn't

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the outer limits conference in Hull

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which was a really good conference

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actually I recommend it for next year if

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anybody's listening and so you had a

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really crazy crazy experience in 2014

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but because I know how it all came about

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I realize that you must have had an

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interest in UFOs before this happened to

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you and I just wondered what was it that

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actually attracted you to the subject in

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the first place oh that's a great

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well this is going to sound very strange

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do you remember the Gary McKenna me I do

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you do yeah at that that specific moment

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in time I was watching what was going on

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with this gentleman and it festered

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fascinated me that he was chasing dr.

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Steven Greer at the same time and his

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fascination with white seen done c5 etc

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and that just caught my attention but I

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think way before that I'd seen things in

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the sky and probably dismissed them as

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now it can't be mm-hmm and there's a

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realization of actually doing that

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yourself is a step too far in some

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basically I I went and bought the app

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advertising the app so I went and bought

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that always this dr. Steven Greer yeah

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mind so Gary McKinnon was the gentleman

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that hacked NASA after dr. Steven Greer

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explanation of there's craft behind the

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moon etc and he wanted to find that and

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he did we don't know because we haven't

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seen them but yeah yeah this said that

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he'd hacked into the Pentagon didn't a

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and ruined all these terminals but Ollie

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does he's a snoop about which is pretty

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much what every other country in the

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world has probably been doing as well

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because if this guy bedroom mu chewed

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through all these like top-secret

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computers and who would who else would

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it be doing that you know that room

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crazy story what ever happened to him I

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don't really I'm certainly went off by

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and added all that yeah believe you got

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off with it I'm following on following

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him on YouTube he's not allowed a

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computer so he's going around me yeah

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was pretty scary for a while wasn't it

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there were threatening it with 70 years

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he'd planted a virus or something didn't

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I said that yeah destroyed two terminals

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governments to 'putin ufff can leave the

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back northern Oakland saying you have to

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wonder you have to really wonder and so

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your attention his way so pretty much

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yeah and you bought an app on your phone

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for your phone I did right so tell me

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about them well this is mine think but

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to the serious promo starter you want

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darling start right back at the

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beginning and tell us the story yeah so

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McKinnon after Steven Greer and

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basically the first video I ever watched

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a dr. Steven Greer was associated with

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the app and contact and I just thought

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app at home using the short meditation

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and basically walk out into my garden

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the app for the first time or maybe the

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second time using it full walked out

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into the garden and I see this beautiful

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glowing orb just literally like it's

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come through a curtain a doorway another

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dimension and my eyes had to look you

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know when you take a double look yeah I

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Brian didn't understand what was going

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on and obviously that freaked me up it

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started swimming towards me I say

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swimming because it was swimming like a

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fish and comets meteors and shooting

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stars whatever people want to call them

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first time I've ever seen anything come

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after using their bloody hat so things

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started clicking in my brain I've just

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using it was it the meditation was at me

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go and this thing came straight towards

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me make three four hundred feet away at

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least came straight towards me then the

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material I was right in front of me no

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tail it was glowing bluish white amazing

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place to attract it you'll see it you

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a living agent is really important this

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phenomena definitely

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one stage and we are we had been fashion

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flashing back us as a response yeah

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the sky we're thinking that all that

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many miles away thousands of miles away

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but huge bright beautiful white clean

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light so that that was a couple that

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London you always with your friend when

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these things happen not all the time no

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I've been interesting they're normally

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in itself yeah I seem to have on film as

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well than swimming through the walls but

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I'm not convinced they didn't duh but I

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haven't posted that one this I know what

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online like is here yeah I think we need

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for arms don't with these days because a

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running up my arm so I took a picture

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every single person that I talked to who

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had an experience that they've either

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had this stuff before but not really

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paid any minds were in some sort of

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massive happens ah you know everything

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like you know having all these kind of

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all the paranormal experiences it's like

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either opens up a part I think it opens

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something up in us I think that's what

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yeah like shaman's they do all these

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relatable the fear the trauma you know

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that it's kind of I think trauma

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a part of our mind that would hit her to

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be dharman maybe but anyway yeah January

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that's what it did to me yeah in 2014

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had them responding maybe just taking

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the dog for a walk around Emily not

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doing meditation at all in fact not

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calling them at all just literally

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within minutes we can have them showing

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up coming through some kind of doorway

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no absolutely bizarre so just if this

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light came down and then it split into

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three in the three went in three

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different directions and it wasn't a

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firework because it came downwards and

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it didn't make any noise yes and these

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three things they just went in different

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directions and they went down behind the

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houses which they were obviously miles

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away but and we were on the hill boys

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like wow yeah I've been catching them on

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a catch among film as well and having

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that dismissed is that's heart-wrenching

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I was there yeah no means is that

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feeling I was there I saw it and trust

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me you'll feel it you'll know will

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appear yeah so in them I think it was

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theatre for the red carpet premiere and

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we explained to dr. Greer that we had

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responses literally playing with the app

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not doing it properly because I'm

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unaware of how to do this I'm checking

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it out just to see if it works

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so I'm explaining this to dr. Steven

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Greer and he's saying ask them to come

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closer and I'm like seriously well how

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did you do that see I'm at that moment

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in time I still don't know what I'm

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yeah so I'm using an app thinking

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well this is his madness this is not

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going to work but like everyone says

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you've got to try it

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trust me you gotta try it so yeah after

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explaining that we'd had responses we'd

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called them down

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supposedly using his app he asked us to

273
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get them closer or ask them nicely

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within your conscious thought to come

275
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closer so we go away from London meeting

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dr. Greer and must be a couple of months

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before we see anything else and then we

278
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start getting random I'd say random

279
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because it wasn't full meditation we

280
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hadn't used the app that these stages

281
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they're randomly turning up in different

282
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places and we're seeing them everywhere

283
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everywhere we go we're going to

284
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different locations at work and we're

285
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filming them all over the place

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beautiful red glowing orbs pure energy

287
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you can see it it's spinning it rotates

288
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and there's something inside they're

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alive they're conscious because they're

290
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responding to us that's insane it

291
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reminds me of something

292
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Cass Clarke heard their barrels that

293
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were coming out of the top of her craft

294
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the craft she saw that just know what

295
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she said that like little black dots it

296
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was all something moving inside as well

297
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and they were reading yeah yeah yeah

298
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it's crazy what's going on people just

299
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can't believe it and I'm not surprised

300
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because it is absolutely but it's really

301
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real it is unbelievable it truly is

302
00:15:05,170 --> 00:15:01,529
unbelievable I don't blame them for not

303
00:15:08,509 --> 00:15:05,180
believing half of what we say but

304
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believe me it's real I'm talking to the

305
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listeners they're really not you say

306
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your your win counter I had to read it

307
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twice just to make it sink in that blew

308
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so these you think that these are plasma

309
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and this plasma is alive don't you yes

310
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100% I'm truly convinced and you'll get

311
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to know why in a minute I'll explain I'm

312
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going to move to 2014 we've been in

313
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between meeting dr. Steven Greer there's

314
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only a handful of recorded footage of

315
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orbs in distant in the distance sorry

316
00:16:10,949 --> 00:16:01,449
yeah up to 300 feet away that's close

317
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but mm not 2014 I know what sky yeah my

318
00:16:15,359 --> 00:16:12,609
hairs are standing on end I'm not yeah

319
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and yeah it's wild

320
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I believe you though when I met you

321
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though I could see all over your face

322
00:16:27,899 --> 00:16:25,659
it's absolutely edged into your face is

323
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this event and I know that because it's

324
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etched into mine as well

325
00:16:36,419 --> 00:16:32,949
you know if I'm not grinning and like my

326
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hope my resting [\h__\h] you can see it

327
00:16:42,989 --> 00:16:38,829
you can see there's yeah something

328
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bothering me something you're never

329
00:16:52,669 --> 00:16:47,529
going to forget never know it's like it

330
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was yesterday yeah every day's like

331
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people can't believe that there are

332
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memories that you can retain memories

333
00:17:00,359 --> 00:16:58,479
it's like oh they fade over time you've

334
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misperceived it at the time blah blah

335
00:17:05,100 --> 00:17:02,379
blah it's like yeah I understand why you

336
00:17:09,329 --> 00:17:05,110
say all of those things with just 75,000

337
00:17:14,819 --> 00:17:09,339
types of noop yeah you can say any way

338
00:17:20,189 --> 00:17:14,829
you like trust me I was there so we are

339
00:17:22,679 --> 00:17:20,199
we are arrived at Burlington house we

340
00:17:26,399 --> 00:17:22,689
call it state security it was state

341
00:17:29,930 --> 00:17:26,409
securities plc limited at the time and

342
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it's now changed hands twice which

343
00:17:37,470 --> 00:17:32,230
freaked us out a little bit it turned

344
00:17:40,109 --> 00:17:37,480
into Rothschild and I was reading at the

345
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same time with Gary McKinnon and

346
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Rothschild

347
00:17:46,740 --> 00:17:43,390
in there somewhere and I was a little

348
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bit weird give you the creeps

349
00:17:55,170 --> 00:17:51,550
yeah so we arrived there around 6:00

350
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6:30 that night as we do every night we

351
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can tone enter the building till 6:00

352
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so we're flowing around 6:00 between

353
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6:00 and 6:30 we get to the canteen and

354
00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:08,290
me and Chris decide to fully try out the

355
00:18:15,060 --> 00:18:10,690
app once and for all do it from start to

356
00:18:19,410 --> 00:18:15,070
finish and we we do the app sorry we do

357
00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:19,420
the contact meditation which lasts

358
00:18:27,510 --> 00:18:22,810
around 20 20 plus minutes maybe half an

359
00:18:30,120 --> 00:18:27,520
hour we listen to the whole other

360
00:18:33,810 --> 00:18:30,130
medication totally silent following the

361
00:18:42,110 --> 00:18:33,820
guides guidelines that got dr. Greer's

362
00:18:44,940 --> 00:18:42,120
same and after this we use the tones

363
00:18:48,120 --> 00:18:44,950
there's the part in the app called tones

364
00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:48,130
this is the et contact tool and the part

365
00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:50,050
on the app called cones you play these

366
00:18:59,150 --> 00:18:54,010
tones and they were recorded in a crop

367
00:19:07,620 --> 00:18:59,160
circle by Colleen Andrews in Winchester

368
00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:07,630
which is a very strange coincidence it's

369
00:19:13,790 --> 00:19:10,330
very odd because we've actually heard

370
00:19:17,820 --> 00:19:13,800
these tones in real life as well yeah

371
00:19:21,870 --> 00:19:17,830
with the app in my pocket not play but

372
00:19:26,340 --> 00:19:21,880
I'll get to that after you have to

373
00:19:28,290 --> 00:19:26,350
remind me of that one so basically we've

374
00:19:31,590 --> 00:19:28,300
gone through the meditation we've played

375
00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:31,600
the tones I've put the magnetometer part

376
00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:36,490
of the Apple so this involves a compass

377
00:19:45,300 --> 00:19:41,770
and a it will only go off if there's a

378
00:19:49,500 --> 00:19:45,310
magnetic impulse in the room in theory

379
00:19:52,350 --> 00:19:49,510
this is the theory and it will go off

380
00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:52,360
over a hundred so ask the hundred for

381
00:19:57,930 --> 00:19:55,090
the alarm goes off this

382
00:20:02,130 --> 00:19:57,940
when way over 500 I think it was five

383
00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:02,140
40-odd that made me panic so I'm

384
00:20:05,850 --> 00:20:04,330
thinking at the same time well there's

385
00:20:07,110 --> 00:20:05,860
something here seriously am i staring

386
00:20:07,730 --> 00:20:07,120
out the window we're looking around the

387
00:20:11,670 --> 00:20:07,740
room

388
00:20:13,020 --> 00:20:11,680
I'm feeling very agitated like there is

389
00:20:16,260 --> 00:20:13,030
something here I feel it there's

390
00:20:22,050 --> 00:20:16,270
something watching and you know when you

391
00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:22,060
get there eerie feeling okay and we stop

392
00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:25,530
that I'm sure I played the tones again

393
00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:27,490
and we stopped and rolled a cigarette

394
00:20:31,350 --> 00:20:29,770
finished our coffee I believe we've got

395
00:20:34,140 --> 00:20:31,360
another coffee and went out with our

396
00:20:35,630 --> 00:20:34,150
cigarettes down to the left hand side

397
00:20:38,130 --> 00:20:35,640
emergency stairwell

398
00:20:42,420 --> 00:20:38,140
we shouldn't you stood there but that's

399
00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:42,430
where we decided to smoke so we get out

400
00:20:47,100 --> 00:20:45,850
to the stairwell around 810 so we've

401
00:20:50,730 --> 00:20:47,110
gone through all of this playing the

402
00:20:54,860 --> 00:20:50,740
tones etc and that's lasted well over an

403
00:20:59,040 --> 00:20:54,870
hour we get out to the balcony

404
00:21:01,370 --> 00:20:59,050
well we've lit up cigarettes and I

405
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:01,380
believe it was less than a minute

406
00:21:12,630 --> 00:21:05,050
definitely less than a minute and I get

407
00:21:27,690 --> 00:21:12,640
this I get this so I'm just going to

408
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:27,700
clean talk about that and wobble on and

409
00:21:38,150 --> 00:21:30,850
then when I stop talking I'm shaking you

410
00:21:50,670 --> 00:21:44,040
so the feeling of I don't know whether I

411
00:21:55,890 --> 00:21:50,680
felt lighter first or warm right but it

412
00:21:59,880 --> 00:21:55,900
seemed to be warmer lighter and the the

413
00:22:00,780 --> 00:21:59,890
deafness sorry the deafening quietness

414
00:22:05,820 --> 00:22:00,790
yeah

415
00:22:08,690 --> 00:22:05,830
instant silence and I look at Chris and

416
00:22:11,249 --> 00:22:08,700
East is just stood there

417
00:22:13,789 --> 00:22:11,259
the automatic reaction to look up

418
00:22:18,989 --> 00:22:13,799
where's the warmth from total silence

419
00:22:20,759 --> 00:22:18,999
but the only noticeable sign of silence

420
00:22:23,070 --> 00:22:20,769
was because the the wind was blowing

421
00:22:26,100 --> 00:22:23,080
through the trees it was quite cold it

422
00:22:28,830 --> 00:22:26,110
was January wind blowing through the

423
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:28,840
trees I could hear birds which is quite

424
00:22:34,860 --> 00:22:31,330
odd around here actually this is quite

425
00:22:37,860 --> 00:22:34,870
it's quite quiet because behind the back

426
00:22:39,360 --> 00:22:37,870
of these buildings are farms according

427
00:22:41,820 --> 00:22:39,370
to Google Maps that goes on for miles

428
00:22:45,210 --> 00:22:41,830
yeah and the direction this thing came

429
00:22:49,529 --> 00:22:45,220
in it came through the most quiet area

430
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:49,539
first I only looked at this a few weeks

431
00:22:56,249 --> 00:22:51,369
ago that sort of caught my eye

432
00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:56,259
Wow let it come in through the fields

433
00:23:00,989 --> 00:22:58,210
instead of the flats the opposite side

434
00:23:04,289 --> 00:23:00,999
of the road on the right or the hotel

435
00:23:10,879 --> 00:23:04,299
and main road to the left it missed all

436
00:23:15,659 --> 00:23:10,889
of that very strange so when when the

437
00:23:19,529 --> 00:23:15,669
total deafening silence hits we look up

438
00:23:25,379 --> 00:23:19,539
and the first thing we see is two ends

439
00:23:30,330 --> 00:23:25,389
of a V two white lights and I'll sort of

440
00:23:42,029 --> 00:23:30,340
back up and say the Kris what the [\h__\h]

441
00:23:44,460 --> 00:23:42,039
is that excuse me sorry yeah my brain at

442
00:23:48,239 --> 00:23:44,470
that stage couldn't keep up with all the

443
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:48,249
feelings in emotional calmness going on

444
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:53,970
yeah I was calmed instantly which was

445
00:23:58,440 --> 00:23:57,129
baffling obviously too you see a brain

446
00:24:02,879 --> 00:23:58,450
right it couldn't keep up with the

447
00:24:05,700 --> 00:24:02,889
thoughts going on yes so then we see the

448
00:24:09,509 --> 00:24:05,710
rest of the craft coming out and the red

449
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:09,519
orb in the middle I call it an orb that

450
00:24:19,639 --> 00:24:12,850
doesn't feel correct this thing was

451
00:24:22,470 --> 00:24:19,649
alive this thing was huge whether it was

452
00:24:26,790 --> 00:24:22,480
controlling the rest of it

453
00:24:29,490 --> 00:24:26,800
that's just an opinion but as it stands

454
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:29,500
above your head in total silence it

455
00:24:37,970 --> 00:24:30,730
should have falling out the sky it was

456
00:24:42,270 --> 00:24:40,380
it's crazy how they just stay up there

457
00:24:44,460 --> 00:24:42,280
and there's no noise and there's just

458
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:44,470
none nothing and that lack of noise

459
00:24:48,300 --> 00:24:45,970
coming from it just makes it more

460
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:48,310
surreal this and that because every year

461
00:24:55,650 --> 00:24:50,410
everything that we know that moves makes

462
00:24:58,110 --> 00:24:55,660
a noise yes indeed see there's some

463
00:25:00,720 --> 00:24:58,120
extraction unit fans or cooling fans to

464
00:25:03,420 --> 00:25:00,730
the left sorry to the right-hand side of

465
00:25:06,780 --> 00:25:03,430
the stairwell there's six of Mobley's

466
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:06,790
I've got a picture of this they're

467
00:25:09,060 --> 00:25:08,770
really loud we couldn't hear that

468
00:25:11,820 --> 00:25:09,070
anymore

469
00:25:12,330 --> 00:25:11,830
Wow there's a light to the right-hand

470
00:25:18,410 --> 00:25:12,340
side

471
00:25:21,090 --> 00:25:18,420
couldn't hear that anymore I'm 99.9%

472
00:25:24,120 --> 00:25:21,100
convinced there was people outside the

473
00:25:27,930 --> 00:25:24,130
back of the body Grange hotel yeah this

474
00:25:31,710 --> 00:25:27,940
is what 300 yards away they would have

475
00:25:37,590 --> 00:25:31,720
seen it convinced they would have seen

476
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:37,600
it as it is above our heads

477
00:25:43,290 --> 00:25:40,450
floating gracefully um I'm thinking and

478
00:25:46,530 --> 00:25:43,300
shouting at Chris I say shouting because

479
00:25:48,540 --> 00:25:46,540
a deafening silence in my head I didn't

480
00:25:51,450 --> 00:25:48,550
know if he could hear me or I was just

481
00:25:53,220 --> 00:25:51,460
losing my mind right and what we're

482
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:53,230
citing back and forward here you see in

483
00:25:57,390 --> 00:25:55,090
this I'm trying to convince myself I'm

484
00:25:59,370 --> 00:25:57,400
not I keep asking him are you seeing

485
00:26:07,560 --> 00:25:59,380
this just to make sure I'm seeing the

486
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:07,570
same as him and this it was like liquid

487
00:26:15,780 --> 00:26:12,010
metals there's no other colors like it

488
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:15,790
I've never seen a bright white light so

489
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:20,290
clean so bright but not enough for you

490
00:26:32,610 --> 00:26:30,970
to close your eyes or squint yeah not

491
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:32,620
too bright to look at it but it is

492
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:35,890
brilliant brilliant white yep

493
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:38,650
so clean but like it like itself is

494
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:45,610
alive yeah this I could see depth within

495
00:26:54,510 --> 00:26:49,810
the five points of light I could see

496
00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:54,520
like you can imagine a tube with a light

497
00:27:01,980 --> 00:26:57,810
coming from him inside there yeah I

498
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:01,990
could see depth into this piece but when

499
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:12,360
Wow what the hell's going on so that's

500
00:27:17,940 --> 00:27:13,690
my brain baffled again

501
00:27:27,360 --> 00:27:17,950
and it just went on and on and on the

502
00:27:32,570 --> 00:27:27,370
center alive think orb you sent me

503
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:32,580
something sometime again did which

504
00:27:41,790 --> 00:27:38,770
scared the [\h__\h] out of me strange things

505
00:27:45,660 --> 00:27:41,800
that they like to do and you described

506
00:27:48,390 --> 00:27:45,670
this to me as this yeah circular red

507
00:27:51,300 --> 00:27:48,400
thing with all these swirling it was he

508
00:27:53,820 --> 00:27:51,310
said it looked alive and it was darker

509
00:27:56,580 --> 00:27:53,830
darker in parts and you know it was just

510
00:28:00,780 --> 00:27:56,590
moving so it was really red like a red

511
00:28:03,120 --> 00:28:00,790
that you could never describe or had

512
00:28:08,010 --> 00:28:03,130
ever seen before but that there was kind

513
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:08,020
of some movement in it and when my one

514
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:10,090
of my kids was sat next to me playing

515
00:28:15,330 --> 00:28:13,090
with a slime app which is utterly

516
00:28:18,810 --> 00:28:15,340
ridiculous to me what a stupid thing

517
00:28:21,350 --> 00:28:18,820
yeah you know odd all right play with

518
00:28:23,990 --> 00:28:21,360
slimy I understand that but slime app

519
00:28:26,790 --> 00:28:24,000
anyway I'm glad that they did that

520
00:28:30,360 --> 00:28:26,800
because she was playing with it and and

521
00:28:33,870 --> 00:28:30,370
swirling it around and I thought that's

522
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:33,880
what amen I wonder if that is that kind

523
00:28:39,930 --> 00:28:37,330
of dental movement and so obviously I

524
00:28:41,670 --> 00:28:39,940
sent it to you and said get this out and

525
00:28:43,290 --> 00:28:41,680
you said is the one in red because I

526
00:28:46,380 --> 00:28:43,300
think Lee was gray or orange or whatever

527
00:28:47,850 --> 00:28:46,390
yeah that was it yeah and I said I don't

528
00:28:49,269 --> 00:28:47,860
know so you've got the up didn't you and

529
00:28:51,789 --> 00:28:49,279
you

530
00:28:54,039 --> 00:28:51,799
and then I found that same night I found

531
00:28:58,659 --> 00:28:54,049
this brilliant little recorder so I

532
00:29:05,620 --> 00:28:58,669
recorded the screen moving didn't I yeah

533
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:05,630
you did Wow I set I set and played with

534
00:29:22,810 --> 00:29:16,570
that's the closest thing I've ever seen

535
00:29:28,570 --> 00:29:22,820
to being so perfect yeah that was it

536
00:29:31,299 --> 00:29:28,580
liquid moving like but nearly

537
00:29:34,990 --> 00:29:31,309
see-through yeah which is absolutely

538
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:35,000
bizarre Chris is adamant he could see a

539
00:29:40,810 --> 00:29:37,850
star straight through it I was baffled

540
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:40,820
as to the bread one how could I just

541
00:29:46,990 --> 00:29:42,610
couldn't take my eyes off it yeah and

542
00:29:47,769 --> 00:29:47,000
the total calmness of me not having to

543
00:29:50,710 --> 00:29:47,779
do that myself

544
00:29:54,669 --> 00:29:50,720
the panic and everything else was

545
00:29:57,700 --> 00:29:54,679
relieved that's why I said some years

546
00:29:59,350 --> 00:29:57,710
ago that I wasn't in control yeah

547
00:30:08,799 --> 00:29:59,360
because I didn't think I was and I

548
00:30:11,350 --> 00:30:08,809
certainly didn't feel it was it just

549
00:30:13,930 --> 00:30:11,360
makes you feel like I when I say how it

550
00:30:17,470 --> 00:30:13,940
made me feeling is like about as big as

551
00:30:20,519 --> 00:30:17,480
a grain of sand you know I felt so small

552
00:30:24,039 --> 00:30:20,529
and so ridiculous I felt useless yeah

553
00:30:35,049 --> 00:30:24,049
yeah and just had to confirm keeps

554
00:30:39,250 --> 00:30:35,059
yelling at Chris to confirm it for me he

555
00:30:43,629 --> 00:30:39,260
is a very quiet bloke he said it doesn't

556
00:30:49,810 --> 00:30:43,639
faze him but I don't know maybe doesn't

557
00:30:52,659 --> 00:30:49,820
I mean it does me yeah I totally get

558
00:30:55,980 --> 00:30:52,669
that Aaron I really do it just changes

559
00:30:59,950 --> 00:30:55,990
everything in one instant

560
00:31:02,890 --> 00:30:59,960
yeah the only reason I say this for 100%

561
00:31:06,970 --> 00:31:02,900
certainty is

562
00:31:09,070 --> 00:31:06,980
I did that mm-hmm it was me

563
00:31:12,550 --> 00:31:09,080
yeah and I've confirmed it so many times

564
00:31:15,490 --> 00:31:12,560
yeah just require a living agent and I'm

565
00:31:18,100 --> 00:31:15,500
not I don't think it's the app itself I

566
00:31:26,260 --> 00:31:18,110
think it puts your mind in the right

567
00:31:28,300 --> 00:31:26,270
place which I'll be looking at the Stars

568
00:31:31,390 --> 00:31:28,310
and I'll look up and exactly where a

569
00:31:33,550 --> 00:31:31,400
look exactly when I look a white light

570
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:33,560
will get bigger and bigger and bigger

571
00:31:40,540 --> 00:31:37,730
and then it just gone gone three flashes

572
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:40,550
or something it's always exactly where I

573
00:31:49,780 --> 00:31:43,610
look and I thought is it my eyes I see

574
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:49,790
your eyes no the deaf for you yeah

575
00:31:54,550 --> 00:31:51,530
exactly it's just for me but then I

576
00:31:56,490 --> 00:31:54,560
think well I know you real I know you're

577
00:32:02,800 --> 00:31:56,500
there why did you keep doing that stop

578
00:32:03,070 --> 00:32:02,810
yes please tell me boy didn't mean to do

579
00:32:21,010 --> 00:32:03,080
it

580
00:32:22,690 --> 00:32:21,020
Wales at the cottage I was upstairs and

581
00:32:24,490 --> 00:32:22,700
he was washing up and he thought about

582
00:32:26,110 --> 00:32:24,500
going stair what Scott you know looking

583
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:26,120
at the sky and then he thought oh no

584
00:32:32,470 --> 00:32:29,810
it's cloudy oh man his brain went oh but

585
00:32:34,930 --> 00:32:32,480
they hide in clouds the hues clouds to

586
00:32:37,300 --> 00:32:34,940
hide I'll go and have a look they do and

587
00:32:40,660 --> 00:32:37,310
then he went out after thinking that and

588
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:40,670
tada there it was I mean it was really

589
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:44,450
far away but I've done that myself

590
00:32:49,450 --> 00:32:47,090
like I've been doing whatever I'm doing

591
00:32:51,010 --> 00:32:49,460
and then my brains going take some

592
00:32:53,620 --> 00:32:51,020
pictures take some pictures now we've

593
00:32:55,390 --> 00:32:53,630
had to try this video I wouldn't have

594
00:32:57,820 --> 00:32:55,400
got anything but the pictures that could

595
00:33:01,180 --> 00:32:57,830
zoom right in and there was this silver

596
00:33:04,990 --> 00:33:01,190
sphere and it's like how how how does my

597
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:05,000
brain mmm did did I sense it but it's

598
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:07,250
miles away how could I send how did how

599
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:10,490
does it work are they in our heads they

600
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:13,730
you know yeah they can be

601
00:33:19,070 --> 00:33:16,770
it's you have to be you have to learn

602
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:19,080
how to be okay with all of that and all

603
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:21,450
of those thoughts which can a barred

604
00:33:27,470 --> 00:33:24,330
aligned on paranoia but it's not

605
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:27,480
surprising we get paranoid because how

606
00:33:31,159 --> 00:33:29,370
does it work and it makes you think all

607
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:31,169
these strange things and there's

608
00:33:35,060 --> 00:33:31,890
something else

609
00:33:36,649 --> 00:33:35,070
they are responding yeah and all of us

610
00:33:42,279 --> 00:33:36,659
are allowed to me no they're all see

611
00:33:45,289 --> 00:33:42,289
that yeah that must be the reason I

612
00:33:50,180 --> 00:33:45,299
think most of my family I've seen them I

613
00:33:52,279 --> 00:33:50,190
find that very odd since you've seen

614
00:33:54,470 --> 00:33:52,289
this I mean since yeah now they've now

615
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:54,480
they've told me also they're saying

616
00:34:00,950 --> 00:33:57,690
things before you are there yeah right

617
00:34:04,070 --> 00:34:00,960
mhm and I've just found out so I'll just

618
00:34:07,010 --> 00:34:04,080
say just found out read about last year

619
00:34:11,300 --> 00:34:07,020
my brother said to me check out my last

620
00:34:15,409 --> 00:34:11,310
track on my old album he's got a couple

621
00:34:17,780 --> 00:34:15,419
of albums out so I need to check that

622
00:34:19,609 --> 00:34:17,790
out I haven't actually got that correct

623
00:34:21,859 --> 00:34:19,619
yet because he lives in Germany so I

624
00:34:22,369 --> 00:34:21,869
need to get an album promise but that's

625
00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:22,379
interesting

626
00:34:30,740 --> 00:34:28,649
he's singing about his encounters which

627
00:34:36,530 --> 00:34:30,750
is quite shocking I need to talk to him

628
00:34:40,310 --> 00:34:36,540
about that again Wow so how many people

629
00:34:46,099 --> 00:34:40,320
in your family have seen things then um

630
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:46,109
I would say all of them it's obviously

631
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:49,490
something that's going on in your family

632
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:54,330
when then is a spiritualist medium she's

633
00:35:00,740 --> 00:34:55,530
going to go to a reading for me soon

634
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:00,750
yeah and maybe check out and see if she

635
00:35:07,970 --> 00:35:03,690
can find out who my God is about

636
00:35:10,609 --> 00:35:07,980
grandmas and all this you know yeah but

637
00:35:11,930 --> 00:35:10,619
every time you know I speak to a medium

638
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:11,940
or whatever they always say Oh your

639
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:13,290
grandmother they should grandma like

640
00:35:19,460 --> 00:35:15,210
your grandma now the other it's always

641
00:35:22,700 --> 00:35:19,470
be grandma yeah she sees things stood

642
00:35:25,490 --> 00:35:22,710
behind her and leaning on her shoulder

643
00:35:30,630 --> 00:35:27,330
[Music]

644
00:35:34,530 --> 00:35:30,640
I did that freaks me out so much I

645
00:35:37,860 --> 00:35:34,540
panicked and left that was enough for me

646
00:35:41,910 --> 00:35:37,870
well I know it's scary it's totally

647
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:41,920
didn't happen it really scary stuff to

648
00:35:44,670 --> 00:35:42,970
me oh my god

649
00:35:48,450 --> 00:35:44,680
I can't believe that my ears are they

650
00:35:50,370 --> 00:35:48,460
just started to go grain there's it just

651
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:50,380
comes with the territory though and when

652
00:35:56,300 --> 00:35:51,970
you have something happens here yeah I

653
00:35:59,850 --> 00:35:56,310
think I'm not I kind of think that

654
00:36:01,230 --> 00:35:59,860
because we're so rattled um we are the

655
00:36:03,450 --> 00:36:01,240
ones who have generated the energy we're

656
00:36:06,870 --> 00:36:03,460
generating our own energy we're sending

657
00:36:10,730 --> 00:36:06,880
out nice bikes of whatever and you know

658
00:36:13,290 --> 00:36:10,740
thought processes and emotions yeah I

659
00:36:15,510 --> 00:36:13,300
think the energy that we have around us

660
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:15,520
like a bioelectric field I think it just

661
00:36:23,430 --> 00:36:17,290
goes completely crackers and there's

662
00:36:28,130 --> 00:36:23,440
probably something I pictured that my

663
00:36:31,580 --> 00:36:28,140
head for a thought process

664
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:31,590
toreano for sequencing process yeah

665
00:36:36,930 --> 00:36:33,850
obviously same thing as you just said

666
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:36,940
we're sending out a thought sequence

667
00:36:41,820 --> 00:36:39,330
we're asking them for them to show and

668
00:36:45,300 --> 00:36:41,830
this has happened so many times I've

669
00:36:47,820 --> 00:36:45,310
scared people they don't like to admit

670
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:47,830
that but you were scared at the time

671
00:36:54,870 --> 00:36:50,650
you're not scared now we were at the

672
00:37:03,150 --> 00:36:54,880
time well what you David if anybody

673
00:37:07,950 --> 00:37:03,160
starts see not for me thank you very

674
00:37:12,090 --> 00:37:07,960
much no this show about that moment

675
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:12,100
thank you my problem is I keep asking

676
00:37:22,140 --> 00:37:19,690
for more and it happens yeah so just

677
00:37:25,230 --> 00:37:22,150
going back to UM standing on the

678
00:37:29,430 --> 00:37:25,240
stairwell I swear

679
00:37:33,110 --> 00:37:29,440
Chris sort dematerialize or either a

680
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:33,120
materialize or shoot off rapid pace

681
00:37:37,380 --> 00:37:35,410
because as where we're staring and

682
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:37,390
swearing each other try and trying to

683
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:39,570
convince ourselves that this wasn't real

684
00:37:47,550 --> 00:37:42,690
it was

685
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:47,560
but at that specific time I felt within

686
00:37:55,890 --> 00:37:52,650
a bubble yeah of the total solids

687
00:37:57,300 --> 00:37:55,900
everything turned off wow that was a

688
00:38:09,960 --> 00:37:57,310
switch so my brain couldn't calculate

689
00:38:11,940 --> 00:38:09,970
that no way did I understand that we

690
00:38:13,350 --> 00:38:11,950
know each other trying to convince

691
00:38:20,070 --> 00:38:13,360
yourselves that you weren't actually

692
00:38:25,940 --> 00:38:20,080
seeing it and that's what you just said

693
00:38:28,350 --> 00:38:25,950
right so when I'm speaking to Chris or

694
00:38:31,970 --> 00:38:28,360
Shelton I have to shout because it's a

695
00:38:38,010 --> 00:38:31,980
numbing feeling in your head yeah like

696
00:38:40,530 --> 00:38:38,020
as pressure going on Chester yeah I'm

697
00:38:43,430 --> 00:38:40,540
just trying to think whether I'm going

698
00:38:46,620 --> 00:38:43,440
slightly deaf at that moment in time or

699
00:38:48,210 --> 00:38:46,630
something else has happened so are

700
00:38:50,970 --> 00:38:48,220
several thoughts going through my mind

701
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:50,980
at that time and I'm shelling to Chrissy

702
00:38:59,670 --> 00:38:56,490
you you feeling this are you seeing this

703
00:39:03,990 --> 00:38:59,680
Chris is that is that moving like that

704
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:04,000
it's liquid Wow and I can see the points

705
00:39:13,190 --> 00:39:07,690
the lights go off in deep to it like a

706
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:13,200
tube maybe eight inches deep but the

707
00:39:21,900 --> 00:39:16,890
light was so bright the white ones and

708
00:39:26,430 --> 00:39:21,910
the crisp clean perfectly cut edges no

709
00:39:28,410 --> 00:39:26,440
seams just perfectly cut edges but how

710
00:39:32,550 --> 00:39:28,420
can it have perfectly cut edges when

711
00:39:35,970 --> 00:39:32,560
it's moving like liquid so I'm thinking

712
00:39:39,180 --> 00:39:35,980
this at the same time and I'm blown away

713
00:39:46,010 --> 00:39:39,190
this is insane it's like looking at a

714
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:50,810
it's literally like a cartoon yeah and

715
00:39:58,620 --> 00:39:54,850
so the last time I turn around to Chris

716
00:40:02,280 --> 00:39:58,630
and say I can't see how thick it is I

717
00:40:04,770 --> 00:40:02,290
can't see a depth to it that's mad

718
00:40:06,300 --> 00:40:04,780
I know so I've only said that unless

719
00:40:08,700 --> 00:40:06,310
what ten seconds

720
00:40:11,730 --> 00:40:08,710
I turned back round and the craft is

721
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:11,740
gone this is directly above the back

722
00:40:16,470 --> 00:40:14,050
doors of the motley Grange hotel so

723
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:16,480
that's 300 feet from the back door of

724
00:40:22,890 --> 00:40:19,690
the emergency stairwell to the back door

725
00:40:27,270 --> 00:40:22,900
of the Flatley Grange Hotel in hedge and

726
00:40:29,100 --> 00:40:27,280
Southampton so only 300 feet or yards

727
00:40:33,300 --> 00:40:29,110
and not sure which which when I looked

728
00:40:36,660 --> 00:40:33,310
at I swear to God there was people there

729
00:40:38,580 --> 00:40:36,670
but I haven't got the courage to go in

730
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:38,590
and speak to the manager and say look I

731
00:40:45,860 --> 00:40:41,410
was there on that night did anybody see

732
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:02,730
yeah when you all first started going

733
00:41:06,810 --> 00:41:05,170
off you start to feel the change and

734
00:41:10,020 --> 00:41:06,820
everything you heard the birds yeah

735
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:10,030
Birds well I don't if I told you I think

736
00:41:14,790 --> 00:41:11,890
I did tell you that I saw I think it was

737
00:41:18,570 --> 00:41:14,800
ninety nineteen ninety-nine I saw the

738
00:41:22,130 --> 00:41:18,580
three Chevron UFOs and they were

739
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:22,140
completely flat and really sharp-edged

740
00:41:26,610 --> 00:41:24,850
yeah oh and there were one inside the

741
00:41:28,260 --> 00:41:26,620
other there was like gaps so it looked

742
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:28,270
like three chevrons on the road you know

743
00:41:34,470 --> 00:41:30,450
I mean you know them ruins

744
00:41:36,450 --> 00:41:34,480
yeah so but when I was sat on the

745
00:41:40,500 --> 00:41:36,460
doorstep and I was like just looking at

746
00:41:42,660 --> 00:41:40,510
the sky and what first what happened

747
00:41:44,910 --> 00:41:42,670
first was all the birds in this tree

748
00:41:47,340 --> 00:41:44,920
started singing but it got really really

749
00:41:48,900 --> 00:41:47,350
really really really loud and I felt

750
00:41:50,940 --> 00:41:48,910
like I was going crazy because it felt

751
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:50,950
like the birds were inside my head yeah

752
00:41:54,990 --> 00:41:53,290
and it was so loud in there are many of

753
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:55,000
them it just started off as a few birds

754
00:41:58,830 --> 00:41:56,890
singing and then it just got to his

755
00:42:00,570 --> 00:41:58,840
crescendo and I looked up and I saw

756
00:42:04,380 --> 00:42:00,580
these three things just shoot across the

757
00:42:06,540 --> 00:42:04,390
sky maybe like four seconds I would say

758
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:06,550
the whole thing and I just got into a

759
00:42:11,509 --> 00:42:08,690
complete and lots of panic

760
00:42:12,739 --> 00:42:11,519
you know because I couldn't believe what

761
00:42:17,420 --> 00:42:12,749
I was seeing and it was the birds that

762
00:42:19,249 --> 00:42:17,430
were so loud yeah that was it just

763
00:42:21,950 --> 00:42:19,259
reminded me of that when you said that

764
00:42:26,930 --> 00:42:21,960
and I thought yeah that's insane it made

765
00:42:28,519 --> 00:42:26,940
my heart pounding you know we're told to

766
00:42:31,430 --> 00:42:28,529
keep all this stuff to ourselves and to

767
00:42:33,170 --> 00:42:31,440
you know like be paranoid or worried

768
00:42:40,759 --> 00:42:33,180
about being laughed at and all the rest

769
00:42:43,789 --> 00:42:40,769
of it but when we talk a really really

770
00:42:46,180 --> 00:42:43,799
significant like the birds well to me

771
00:42:48,499 --> 00:42:46,190
birds and Chevron's and yards was

772
00:42:51,559 --> 00:42:48,509
literally a chevron wasn't it with this

773
00:42:55,819 --> 00:42:51,569
red circle inside it yes with the lights

774
00:42:58,390 --> 00:42:55,829
on the arms of the Chevron itself and

775
00:43:01,960 --> 00:42:58,400
that was black wasn't it

776
00:43:04,430 --> 00:43:01,970
well Chris at one stage this is funny

777
00:43:09,470 --> 00:43:04,440
Chris at one stage was convinced it was

778
00:43:12,470 --> 00:43:09,480
white ah which was very that that's very

779
00:43:16,069 --> 00:43:12,480
odd now I showed him showed him the

780
00:43:18,589 --> 00:43:16,079
image they drew yeah that's it and then

781
00:43:23,180 --> 00:43:18,599
I'll call it in and he said yeah that's

782
00:43:27,170 --> 00:43:23,190
it so the liquid as we saw moving had a

783
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:27,180
change of you know when it catches light

784
00:43:33,289 --> 00:43:31,650
yeah so it it had a tinge of white to it

785
00:43:36,529 --> 00:43:33,299
I would say yeah yeah I would agree with

786
00:43:43,269 --> 00:43:36,539
that yeah but to my eyes the whole thing

787
00:43:48,339 --> 00:43:43,279
was black perfectly black and are moving

788
00:43:56,509 --> 00:43:54,140
yeah like liquid metal the trick but the

789
00:43:58,220 --> 00:43:56,519
app that you shared with me the red one

790
00:44:01,039 --> 00:43:58,230
well that was perfect

791
00:44:04,099 --> 00:44:01,049
yeah but that was alive I think the

792
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:04,109
whole craft was alive but the red 100%

793
00:44:08,329 --> 00:44:05,970
convinced that was alive yeah because

794
00:44:14,029 --> 00:44:08,339
I've seen them since and they all look

795
00:44:18,499 --> 00:44:14,039
the same right so we're after Chris is

796
00:44:21,860 --> 00:44:18,509
um she's looking towards me which is

797
00:44:24,470 --> 00:44:21,870
actually looking towards the craft so

798
00:44:26,060 --> 00:44:24,480
maybe it scared him maybe it disappeared

799
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:26,070
like that and maybe it scared him or

800
00:44:32,770 --> 00:44:27,810
maybe didn't see it disappear Ian's

801
00:44:35,900 --> 00:44:32,780
looking at me but it disappeared and we

802
00:44:39,860 --> 00:44:35,910
sorry before that the sound came back

803
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:39,870
alright so between the building and the

804
00:44:48,350 --> 00:44:45,690
trees which is 50 60 feet high all the

805
00:44:50,780 --> 00:44:48,360
sound came back the fans came back the

806
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:50,790
birds the trees when going through and

807
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:52,410
the water to the right hand side

808
00:44:58,580 --> 00:44:54,690
everything came back with we could hear

809
00:45:01,850 --> 00:44:58,590
perfectly again so it wasn't cause that

810
00:45:05,540 --> 00:45:01,860
leo's factor doesn't she and but people

811
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:05,550
have asked me and I don't really recall

812
00:45:10,820 --> 00:45:08,490
I know that the Sheep had led down and

813
00:45:12,740 --> 00:45:10,830
they weren't being quiet but we could

814
00:45:16,250 --> 00:45:12,750
hear each other and I didn't feel deaf

815
00:45:18,650 --> 00:45:16,260
and I didn't feel static but I don't

816
00:45:19,940 --> 00:45:18,660
remember hearing any sounds but I don't

817
00:45:27,830 --> 00:45:19,950
know if there really were I need to be

818
00:45:31,550 --> 00:45:27,840
heard there was a very windy it was it

819
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:31,560
was down it wasn't raining you know it's

820
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:34,890
just thick cloud cover so we're warmish

821
00:45:40,070 --> 00:45:38,010
I don't remember I honestly think that I

822
00:45:42,500 --> 00:45:40,080
was just so caught up in the moment that

823
00:45:44,350 --> 00:45:42,510
I didn't feel cold I didn't feel

824
00:45:48,230 --> 00:45:44,360
anything I didn't you know it was just

825
00:45:50,150 --> 00:45:48,240
it was February so it will have been

826
00:45:53,030 --> 00:45:50,160
cold you know we were on the top of a

827
00:45:55,550 --> 00:45:53,040
mountain in Wales in February later you

828
00:45:59,240 --> 00:45:55,560
know about seven o'clock something like

829
00:46:02,000 --> 00:45:59,250
that in the evening so you know it

830
00:46:03,860 --> 00:46:02,010
wasn't warm but I don't remember being

831
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:03,870
cold and we were all outside for quite a

832
00:46:10,430 --> 00:46:07,170
while I think the adrenaline was pumping

833
00:46:13,180 --> 00:46:10,440
that much you know you just don't those

834
00:46:17,570 --> 00:46:13,190
things to stoke torture today

835
00:46:19,580 --> 00:46:17,580
that's it so according to according to

836
00:46:28,940 --> 00:46:19,590
the time we were out there quite a while

837
00:46:32,180 --> 00:46:28,950
as well we certainly did we till after

838
00:46:35,569 --> 00:46:32,190
the craft either dematerialized or shot

839
00:46:38,839 --> 00:46:35,579
off sadly I didn't witness it

840
00:46:40,779 --> 00:46:38,849
I was too busy staring at Chris still

841
00:46:44,690 --> 00:46:40,789
convinced myself that this thing's

842
00:46:48,849 --> 00:46:44,700
something it's not we turn back into the

843
00:46:51,069 --> 00:46:48,859
building and I'm dazed walking around

844
00:46:53,079 --> 00:46:51,079
straight to the wards for County and

845
00:46:56,809 --> 00:46:53,089
Chris calls me back

846
00:46:59,900 --> 00:46:56,819
Darren do you realize the time it may I

847
00:47:02,359 --> 00:46:59,910
couldn't give a [\h__\h] about the time I'm

848
00:47:05,839 --> 00:47:02,369
going to crack on here and get out of

849
00:47:08,989 --> 00:47:05,849
there I'm done I can't believe what's

850
00:47:15,079 --> 00:47:08,999
just happened I'm basically on a

851
00:47:17,569 --> 00:47:15,089
meltdown at that time but Chris kindly

852
00:47:21,259 --> 00:47:17,579
shouts again and says look at the look

853
00:47:24,199 --> 00:47:21,269
at the time and it's it's way after

854
00:47:31,130 --> 00:47:24,209
eleven o'clock we got outside at 10 past

855
00:47:33,469 --> 00:47:31,140
8:00 and it's now way after 11:00 we

856
00:47:36,430 --> 00:47:33,479
didn't leave the building until 1:30

857
00:47:50,539 --> 00:47:43,969
so from exiting the stairwell at around

858
00:47:57,459 --> 00:47:50,549
like maybe 25 past 8 in theory we've

859
00:48:02,569 --> 00:47:57,469
lost four hours of time between 8 10 and

860
00:48:05,059 --> 00:48:02,579
1:30 a.m. but in between that time we'd

861
00:48:06,859 --> 00:48:05,069
cleaned the building for at least 45

862
00:48:11,959 --> 00:48:06,869
minutes rushed back to the cleaning

863
00:48:17,269 --> 00:48:11,969
cupboard and run out the door yeah also

864
00:48:20,180 --> 00:48:17,279
a few minutes after the craft had

865
00:48:22,939 --> 00:48:20,190
actually disappeared a black helicopter

866
00:48:25,269 --> 00:48:22,949
turns up Chris has convinced us to but I

867
00:48:30,049 --> 00:48:25,279
didn't stick my head out the door so he

868
00:48:32,359 --> 00:48:30,059
would have seen the - so these are pure

869
00:48:34,969 --> 00:48:32,369
black those windows on them but they're

870
00:48:38,809 --> 00:48:34,979
pure black and I'm panicking

871
00:48:40,910 --> 00:48:38,819
I'm hid behind the table trying to look

872
00:48:43,549 --> 00:48:40,920
out the window and I don't know if

873
00:48:45,140 --> 00:48:43,559
they're there they're for us you know

874
00:48:48,819 --> 00:48:45,150
what goes through your head at this

875
00:48:52,359 --> 00:48:51,219
no you just think yeah is that for me I

876
00:48:53,739 --> 00:48:52,369
mean you think oh don't be ridiculous

877
00:48:57,759 --> 00:48:53,749
and then you think well why wouldn't it

878
00:48:59,199 --> 00:48:57,769
be not the first time either taking

879
00:49:02,620 --> 00:48:59,209
pictures of me talking about it on

880
00:49:05,259 --> 00:49:02,630
Facebook you know you do I think you

881
00:49:07,299 --> 00:49:05,269
know the genuinely interested in people

882
00:49:11,890 --> 00:49:07,309
who were having this phenomena around

883
00:49:13,690 --> 00:49:11,900
them ya know we know or not we feelin

884
00:49:15,309 --> 00:49:13,700
like cattle this just make me feel

885
00:49:16,979 --> 00:49:15,319
special and I know it doesn't make you

886
00:49:20,410 --> 00:49:16,989
feel special

887
00:49:21,370 --> 00:49:20,420
mm-hmm well they know it was there they

888
00:49:23,890 --> 00:49:21,380
wouldn't have been there for that

889
00:49:25,690 --> 00:49:23,900
nothing else no helicopter helicopters

890
00:49:28,449 --> 00:49:25,700
all planes had ever ever gone over the

891
00:49:31,059 --> 00:49:28,459
top of that building we know that

892
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:31,069
because the flight path from head Yin

893
00:49:34,109 --> 00:49:32,930
dorsal Hampton Airport is completely the

894
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:34,119
opposite direction

895
00:49:44,309 --> 00:49:36,650
Malcolm Robinson sent away letters to

896
00:49:47,529 --> 00:49:44,319
various premises police etc airports

897
00:49:49,539 --> 00:49:47,539
Minister of Defence Freedom of

898
00:49:53,289 --> 00:49:49,549
Information request from the police as

899
00:49:56,109 --> 00:49:53,299
well it's all been returned as I'll give

900
00:49:58,329 --> 00:49:56,119
you this one the airport Exeter Airport

901
00:50:05,650 --> 00:49:58,339
I think it was returned it and said it

902
00:50:07,630 --> 00:50:05,660
was a c-130 aircraft okay that's that's

903
00:50:10,900 --> 00:50:07,640
nice of you what six feet away I could

904
00:50:14,140 --> 00:50:10,910
have touched it oh we're saying that the

905
00:50:24,309 --> 00:50:14,150
craft that you saw was the c-130 yeah

906
00:50:26,499 --> 00:50:24,319
shouldn't of them blown our heads off it

907
00:50:28,839 --> 00:50:26,509
did like it didn't make me laugh

908
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:28,849
there were several like that but that

909
00:50:38,650 --> 00:50:31,729
one did make me laugh although it pissed

910
00:50:41,979 --> 00:50:38,660
me off at the same time and in the bases

911
00:50:44,739 --> 00:50:41,989
around there you should be able to find

912
00:50:46,630 --> 00:50:44,749
out through FOIA whether anything was in

913
00:50:50,699 --> 00:50:46,640
the air that night because Kaz Clarke

914
00:50:54,699 --> 00:50:50,709
and Gary Jones from Swansea UFO network

915
00:50:57,789 --> 00:50:54,709
Cass Clark is their witness and he's the

916
00:50:59,650 --> 00:50:57,799
researcher and they've been firing off

917
00:51:01,390 --> 00:50:59,660
these fires and come in but we've come

918
00:51:02,500 --> 00:51:01,400
about section 26 which is not in the

919
00:51:05,890 --> 00:51:02,510
public interest

920
00:51:08,950 --> 00:51:05,900
but they know that they've seen that she

921
00:51:10,900 --> 00:51:08,960
saw c-130s she saw various helicopters

922
00:51:13,720 --> 00:51:10,910
they had this particular kind of

923
00:51:16,660 --> 00:51:13,730
formation that they were engaging with

924
00:51:20,609 --> 00:51:16,670
this Crafton and it started with the

925
00:51:24,550 --> 00:51:20,619
helicopters so you two should talk

926
00:51:28,890 --> 00:51:24,560
indeed yeah I will get old okay some

927
00:51:35,349 --> 00:51:32,550
we've got several letters on return from

928
00:51:39,990 --> 00:51:35,359
Elise excetera belay yeah they've

929
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:40,000
they've seen nothing by this year

930
00:51:45,099 --> 00:51:43,850
rubbish well you know that are there you

931
00:51:46,780 --> 00:51:45,109
wouldn't have sent helicopters otherwise

932
00:51:48,580 --> 00:51:46,790
well the police might not know about it

933
00:51:50,740 --> 00:51:48,590
they might not that wasn't the

934
00:52:01,030 --> 00:51:50,750
helicopters from the police was if it

935
00:52:03,910 --> 00:52:01,040
was black if they were all know I've got

936
00:52:08,710 --> 00:52:03,920
police helicopters on video outside my

937
00:52:10,690 --> 00:52:08,720
hair and also the other the other black

938
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:10,700
chopper that followed the UFO in my

939
00:52:19,090 --> 00:52:13,130
garden yeah when I filmed it was in the

940
00:52:21,970 --> 00:52:19,100
papers that was course yes in them

941
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:21,980
it's in for newspapers basically I

942
00:52:29,580 --> 00:52:26,210
walked out after doing meditation and I

943
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:29,590
see this black object off to my left

944
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:33,530
gracefully floating maybe maybe a

945
00:52:42,550 --> 00:52:38,810
thousand feet away from me maybe give or

946
00:52:46,599 --> 00:52:42,560
take maybe a thousand feet up mm

947
00:52:49,060 --> 00:52:46,609
possibly um it doesn't wobble like a

948
00:52:53,109 --> 00:52:49,070
balloon it doesn't look like a balloon

949
00:52:56,109 --> 00:52:53,119
so I run back and get my camcorder when

950
00:52:59,140 --> 00:52:56,119
i zoom in and look at this object it's

951
00:53:03,190 --> 00:52:59,150
got a hole in the center so it's now a

952
00:53:07,500 --> 00:53:03,200
ring it's a black ring and balloons

953
00:53:10,390 --> 00:53:07,510
would have taken a the wind path or

954
00:53:12,910 --> 00:53:10,400
floated off into the distance either

955
00:53:15,940 --> 00:53:12,920
going up or down wouldn't note this

956
00:53:16,270 --> 00:53:15,950
stayed perfectly straight straight

957
00:53:19,540 --> 00:53:16,280
across

958
00:53:21,700 --> 00:53:19,550
sky I could see it for miles but sadly

959
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:21,710
on the the camcorder at the time I

960
00:53:26,980 --> 00:53:23,450
thought I'd lost it so I'm pulling the

961
00:53:31,090 --> 00:53:26,990
camcorder down and lost the fridge so I

962
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:31,100
stopped filming several minutes later at

963
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:32,890
least two minutes I would have guessed

964
00:53:38,140 --> 00:53:35,210
this black helicopter comes over the

965
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:38,150
same path and follows it all the way

966
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:40,610
through exactly the same path how

967
00:54:02,980 --> 00:53:47,800
and I've got all this on on camera and

968
00:54:05,410 --> 00:54:02,990
that was the kids have seen if I was

969
00:54:09,220 --> 00:54:05,420
going to put them on in public they're

970
00:54:11,980 --> 00:54:09,230
telling you that I love it and you know

971
00:54:14,410 --> 00:54:11,990
I mean they were literally parts pretty

972
00:54:17,140 --> 00:54:14,420
much parked on the roof and I was in the

973
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:17,150
Attic and the kids are down in the

974
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:19,010
street and I'm showing down to them and

975
00:54:29,260 --> 00:54:21,410
they're showing up to me there's two of

976
00:54:31,420 --> 00:54:29,270
her oh I know a lot of going just kind

977
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:31,430
of circling but going right over the top

978
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:33,650
of my my houses I'm in the Attic I've

979
00:54:37,380 --> 00:54:35,690
got a Dharma it's pretty cold up there

980
00:54:39,670 --> 00:54:37,390
there's no incident there's nothing

981
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:39,680
insulating anything so it's just kind of

982
00:54:44,050 --> 00:54:41,930
the roof and the noise is incredible

983
00:54:45,490 --> 00:54:44,060
there was all right over the top and

984
00:54:47,050 --> 00:54:45,500
then doing a little circle right on the

985
00:54:49,720 --> 00:54:47,060
top and doing a little circle in the end

986
00:54:52,090 --> 00:54:49,730
I just sat there with two fingers in the

987
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:52,100
air at the window cuz I thought you're

988
00:55:00,070 --> 00:54:56,810
doing it you know and then probably just

989
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:00,080
missed across well I probably do I would

990
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:01,850
why would I know that anything I used to

991
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:03,650
see a lot going on above my house but I

992
00:55:07,540 --> 00:55:05,090
probably was probably stuff going on up

993
00:55:10,240 --> 00:55:07,550
there when I wasn't looking I mean that

994
00:55:12,460 --> 00:55:10,250
I had a crazy time in November 2010

995
00:55:16,270 --> 00:55:12,470
there with all sorts of things and it

996
00:55:19,420 --> 00:55:16,280
wasn't there was a c-130 circling

997
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:19,430
circling circling for 24 hours has

998
00:55:23,740 --> 00:55:21,170
Clarke said that I've never even got a

999
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:23,750
little old photographs on Facebook at

1000
00:55:27,610 --> 00:55:26,090
these plane and I kept firsta graphing

1001
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:27,620
it because it was so noisy and it was

1002
00:55:33,730 --> 00:55:29,690
you know it was there for

1003
00:55:35,410 --> 00:55:33,740
an entire day and then the next day

1004
00:55:38,410 --> 00:55:35,420
there were two Chinook helicopters at

1005
00:55:39,190 --> 00:55:38,420
the back of the net Oh in beeston in

1006
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:39,200
Leeds

1007
00:55:43,589 --> 00:55:40,970
right in the middle of the city centre

1008
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:43,599
practically doing a grid search

1009
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:46,010
something was going on you know and I

1010
00:55:49,390 --> 00:55:47,690
was the only person looking at the skies

1011
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:49,400
and second photographs and putting them

1012
00:55:59,349 --> 00:55:56,789
[Music]

1013
00:56:00,760 --> 00:55:59,359
and I thought I'd gone crazy I thought

1014
00:56:03,210 --> 00:56:00,770
he was doing my din in it and I've

1015
00:56:07,510 --> 00:56:03,220
remembered it for all these years and

1016
00:56:10,450 --> 00:56:07,520
last year friends brought another friend

1017
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:10,460
round and he was saying that he was

1018
00:56:15,970 --> 00:56:11,690
talking about a friend of his that had

1019
00:56:18,970 --> 00:56:15,980
died and he said Ernie had all this this

1020
00:56:21,039 --> 00:56:18,980
stuff going on in November 2010 when he

1021
00:56:22,450 --> 00:56:21,049
kept seeing all these weird UFOs and all

1022
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:22,460
sorts of stuff going on with the clouds

1023
00:56:27,970 --> 00:56:25,130
and I was like well I saw that oh my god

1024
00:56:30,460 --> 00:56:27,980
I'm not crazy then fortunately this guy

1025
00:56:35,740 --> 00:56:30,470
is not alive anymore he fell off a

1026
00:56:38,079 --> 00:56:35,750
building and you know it was kind of

1027
00:56:39,609 --> 00:56:38,089
like from the grave I got this little

1028
00:56:41,650 --> 00:56:39,619
bit of confirmation that you know you

1029
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:41,660
did see that if a little boy was seeing

1030
00:56:44,890 --> 00:56:43,010
things you know I mean he was pointing

1031
00:56:47,890 --> 00:56:44,900
things out in the sky and he was in his

1032
00:56:49,930 --> 00:56:47,900
pushchair you know I honestly thought no

1033
00:56:54,460 --> 00:56:49,940
I'm going crazy and then there was that

1034
00:56:56,470 --> 00:56:54,470
I could remember somebody somebody said

1035
00:57:00,029 --> 00:56:56,480
some military guy said there was going

1036
00:57:03,549 --> 00:57:00,039
to be an invasion on November the 10th

1037
00:57:05,529 --> 00:57:03,559
2010 right years and years ago so far

1038
00:57:07,990 --> 00:57:05,539
and I can't remember his name Benjamin

1039
00:57:10,750 --> 00:57:08,000
our been something like that it's not

1040
00:57:14,829 --> 00:57:10,760
Benjamin Fulford but something along

1041
00:57:16,660 --> 00:57:14,839
like something like that so all this was

1042
00:57:18,490 --> 00:57:16,670
going on and I thought no this can't be

1043
00:57:20,349 --> 00:57:18,500
I don't you just sort of making stuff up

1044
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:20,359
so I wasn't on living room but I'm just

1045
00:57:24,819 --> 00:57:22,010
gonna watch a bit of TV so I don't go

1046
00:57:26,980 --> 00:57:24,829
crazy and then it comes on and I only

1047
00:57:29,740 --> 00:57:26,990
ever watched TV I only other TV for my

1048
00:57:33,039 --> 00:57:29,750
children the series and the brand-new

1049
00:57:41,079 --> 00:57:33,049
series of V it started that day each ok

1050
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:41,089
no way no way my mind all of it yeah too

1051
00:57:43,859 --> 00:57:42,010
crazy and

1052
00:57:45,930 --> 00:57:43,869
I've talked to Troy if it wasn't he a

1053
00:57:48,270 --> 00:57:45,940
little bit about having those moments

1054
00:57:49,980 --> 00:57:48,280
when your environment seems to be

1055
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:49,990
interacting with you and that was then

1056
00:57:56,970 --> 00:57:53,170
and now I look back and a question miss

1057
00:57:58,500 --> 00:57:56,980
oñate but you know what we do that don't

1058
00:58:01,950 --> 00:57:58,510
worry question a son let's here all the

1059
00:58:04,130 --> 00:58:01,960
time because it makes us feel crazy many

1060
00:58:06,540 --> 00:58:04,140
times many times we're not we're just

1061
00:58:11,390 --> 00:58:06,550
something and it makes us feel crazy

1062
00:58:14,970 --> 00:58:11,400
we're not actually crazy but when you go

1063
00:58:20,970 --> 00:58:14,980
you go out and confirm it again and

1064
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:20,980
again and again that oh okay now tell me

1065
00:58:30,780 --> 00:58:28,690
why in hell I've got it I think if we

1066
00:58:34,290 --> 00:58:30,790
did know we could prove it would be the

1067
00:58:44,390 --> 00:58:34,300
richest people on the planet that's it I

1068
00:58:59,130 --> 00:58:57,120
no I mean being but certainly like yeah

1069
00:59:03,890 --> 00:58:59,140
sorry I'd certainly like to know what

1070
00:59:07,170 --> 00:59:03,900
happened to the time was it manipulated

1071
00:59:09,930 --> 00:59:07,180
as soon as we stood outside in my

1072
00:59:11,819 --> 00:59:09,940
opinion yes it was well didn't you say

1073
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:11,829
that you had a funny thing going on with

1074
00:59:18,420 --> 00:59:14,130
you out before you even went outside

1075
00:59:21,839 --> 00:59:18,430
yeah and at no stage after the photo of

1076
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:21,849
the app was taken at 7:36 I believe that

1077
00:59:31,319 --> 00:59:26,530
was at no stage after that did we look

1078
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:31,329
at the time so I'm guessing we got

1079
00:59:38,940 --> 00:59:36,250
outside it 10 past 8:00 yeah because

1080
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:38,950
it's human that the tones went on for a

1081
00:59:45,109 --> 00:59:43,930
good 15 15 minutes plus the coffee the

1082
00:59:48,900 --> 00:59:45,119
role in the cigarettes

1083
00:59:53,130 --> 00:59:48,910
it would mean around 8 8 10 yeah

1084
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:53,140
but maybe not I felt strange but not

1085
00:59:57,930 --> 00:59:55,330
that strange I was a hard

1086
01:00:04,950 --> 00:59:57,940
speed this is where that conversation

1087
01:00:12,470 --> 01:00:04,960
with the MUFON Muppet very nice oh my

1088
01:00:17,210 --> 01:00:12,480
goodness I am so I can't even find words

1089
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:17,220
right to express my blowing my utter

1090
01:00:24,690 --> 01:00:20,170
disgust at what happened to you yes

1091
01:00:28,590 --> 01:00:24,700
please tell the listeners what MUFON did

1092
01:00:30,930 --> 01:00:28,600
to you I wanted to do to you Jack

1093
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:30,940
Turnbull was right

1094
01:00:40,620 --> 01:00:39,130
Mr Turnbull you agree the conversation

1095
01:00:44,100 --> 01:00:40,630
took place I got a phone call from Jack

1096
01:00:44,820 --> 01:00:44,110
handle obviously after reporting it did

1097
01:00:46,950 --> 01:00:44,830
he move on

1098
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:46,960
case number seven oh three four - I

1099
01:00:58,890 --> 01:00:52,570
believe and received the phone call he

1100
01:01:01,110 --> 01:00:58,900
asked me to explain as you would Larry

1101
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:01,120
Warren's name came into it because of

1102
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:05,250
the half-speed comment from myself and

1103
01:01:12,180 --> 01:01:08,890
the red orb is that you sure you haven't

1104
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:12,190
read the book no I don't even know Larry

1105
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:14,650
Warren is to be perfectly honest I

1106
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:16,090
didn't he stole that off somebody else

1107
01:01:26,670 --> 01:01:23,770
that element anyway yeah well when when

1108
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:26,680
I read the book it was three beings now

1109
01:01:40,950 --> 01:01:28,330
in the film it's four so good luck with

1110
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:40,960
it anyway yeah went on to say that he

1111
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:44,170
would inject cast was sodium pentothal

1112
01:01:49,410 --> 01:01:46,690
and give us a lie-detector test to see

1113
01:01:52,650 --> 01:01:49,420
if we're full of [\h__\h] basically and I

1114
01:01:54,870 --> 01:01:52,660
did it chuckles nothing chuckle a little

1115
01:01:57,450 --> 01:01:54,880
bit and I thought wow really

1116
01:02:01,020 --> 01:01:57,460
now you can know this this is thoughts

1117
01:02:08,539 --> 01:02:01,030
running through my head and I'm

1118
01:02:12,739 --> 01:02:10,609
who literally makes my brain feel for me

1119
01:02:15,109 --> 01:02:12,749
like there's not enough room in my head

1120
01:02:18,380 --> 01:02:15,119
for it you know you see what's the shape

1121
01:02:21,469 --> 01:02:18,390
shift out in anger there he obviously

1122
01:02:23,029 --> 01:02:21,479
thought I was full of crap because my

1123
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:23,039
explanation of the craft the missing

1124
01:02:29,809 --> 01:02:28,170
time the helicopters the feeling the

1125
01:02:32,089 --> 01:02:29,819
looks of sound feeling death going

1126
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:32,099
half-speed the thing was alive I mean

1127
01:02:36,650 --> 01:02:34,410
did it did it make his head explode or

1128
01:02:41,479 --> 01:02:36,660
something imagine how I felt stood there

1129
01:02:45,169 --> 01:02:41,489
I mean for him to say something that

1130
01:02:47,449 --> 01:02:45,179
bizarre Gorman I'll take your truth

1131
01:03:01,959 --> 01:02:47,459
suits you I'll do your laundry like you

1132
01:03:08,359 --> 01:03:04,630
it's just outrageous

1133
01:03:10,189 --> 01:03:08,369
so no context from MUFON after that

1134
01:03:12,620 --> 01:03:10,199
official phone call from this Jack

1135
01:03:26,719 --> 01:03:12,630
Turnbull who was supposed to be the UK

1136
01:03:29,870 --> 01:03:26,729
organizer or rep UK's entire package

1137
01:03:32,539 --> 01:03:29,880
that comes with each drug in beautiful

1138
01:03:35,689 --> 01:03:32,549
no investigation whatsoever no letters

1139
01:03:39,349 --> 01:03:35,699
and no no secondary phone call nothing

1140
01:03:45,679 --> 01:03:39,359
total silence I even contacted jet is it

1141
01:03:47,929 --> 01:03:45,689
Jen house end housing yeah I believe

1142
01:03:49,370 --> 01:03:47,939
there was no response from him yeah I

1143
01:03:52,099 --> 01:03:49,380
sent him the coast number and everything

1144
01:03:56,599 --> 01:03:52,109
told him who called me I contacted MUFON

1145
01:03:59,089 --> 01:03:56,609
online I responded to emails zero

1146
01:04:03,949 --> 01:03:59,099
contact with Chris at all nobody spoke

1147
01:04:06,439 --> 01:04:03,959
to Krystal all our sightings to beef up

1148
01:04:11,479 --> 01:04:06,449
their presence but they don't believe

1149
01:04:15,169 --> 01:04:11,489
anybody do any helicopters were there so

1150
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:15,179
they know it was it you know they can

1151
01:04:22,279 --> 01:04:19,890
parade them in public and go you know

1152
01:04:25,759 --> 01:04:22,289
the last email I got it was from

1153
01:04:31,039 --> 01:04:25,769
den house and actually was a subscribe

1154
01:04:33,289 --> 01:04:31,049
here please pay me pay me and I can read

1155
01:04:39,049 --> 01:04:33,299
my own citing that I have reported to

1156
01:04:43,009 --> 01:04:39,059
you yeah yeah so I went along to Gary

1157
01:04:46,489 --> 01:04:43,019
Heseltine's conference and Malcolm

1158
01:04:48,859 --> 01:04:46,499
Robinson was speaking I thought that was

1159
01:04:51,199 --> 01:04:48,869
absolutely awesome so I had to tell that

1160
01:04:53,209 --> 01:04:51,209
man my story definitely had to tell that

1161
01:05:02,120 --> 01:04:53,219
know my story I've bought in the beer of

1162
01:05:05,089 --> 01:05:02,130
the cars so you owe me a beer now so I

1163
01:05:09,039 --> 01:05:05,099
told him and he contacted me

1164
01:05:11,989 --> 01:05:09,049
shortly after and I gave him the report

1165
01:05:15,919 --> 01:05:11,999
this gentleman did more for us and so

1166
01:05:18,829 --> 01:05:15,929
did Allison Dunlop in 24 hours then move

1167
01:05:21,049 --> 01:05:18,839
on I've ever done all the police all the

1168
01:05:24,559 --> 01:05:21,059
airports or any other company that's it

1169
01:05:28,429 --> 01:05:24,569
some denying it was there they've done

1170
01:05:29,599 --> 01:05:28,439
more for us and we thank them from the

1171
01:05:33,620 --> 01:05:29,609
bottom of our heart

1172
01:05:36,609 --> 01:05:33,630
definitely yeah Allison Dunlop has been

1173
01:05:41,029 --> 01:05:36,619
absolutely outstanding legend in this

1174
01:05:45,109 --> 01:05:41,039
Larry Warren fraud investigation yeah

1175
01:05:49,339 --> 01:05:45,119
absolutely and SPI Scotland is their

1176
01:05:51,109 --> 01:05:49,349
thing you know they are really good and

1177
01:05:54,499 --> 01:05:51,119
the if you go to them that they will

1178
01:05:56,870 --> 01:05:54,509
help you if they come you know Allison's

1179
01:06:00,099 --> 01:05:56,880
just an excellent person she was my

1180
01:06:07,069 --> 01:06:00,109
guest last week she's lovely

1181
01:06:09,319 --> 01:06:07,079
just went in about a minute and yeah I'm

1182
01:06:12,979 --> 01:06:09,329
glad that you got some support from man

1183
01:06:16,849 --> 01:06:12,989
but there just isn't any real support

1184
01:06:19,759 --> 01:06:16,859
for anybody's or needs you know in

1185
01:06:23,659 --> 01:06:19,769
Dudley is busy yes sorry sir

1186
01:06:25,579 --> 01:06:23,669
um yeah suddenly there's no one there's

1187
01:06:26,809 --> 01:06:25,589
not really anyone to turn to is it I'm

1188
01:06:30,049 --> 01:06:26,819
agreeing with you totally

1189
01:06:33,229 --> 01:06:30,059
I mean you can't talk to your friends if

1190
01:06:34,669 --> 01:06:33,239
they don't know what you're actually

1191
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:34,679
going to say I mean when you're in a

1192
01:06:41,010 --> 01:06:37,410
conversation and someone mentioned

1193
01:06:45,090 --> 01:06:41,020
it's it's a piss taking competition it's

1194
01:06:46,590 --> 01:06:45,100
not there's no reality to it I mean if

1195
01:06:51,150 --> 01:06:46,600
you're if you're me and you stand there

1196
01:06:53,490 --> 01:06:51,160
I'll show you yeah just wait a minute

1197
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:53,500
just like that urn that guy who is

1198
01:07:00,660 --> 01:06:55,930
economy South Yahweh he says he can call

1199
01:07:02,430 --> 01:07:00,670
down fell down these lights and some

1200
01:07:03,750 --> 01:07:02,440
waters and they went to film and because

1201
01:07:20,310 --> 01:07:03,760
they were just going to go take the piss

1202
01:07:22,770 --> 01:07:20,320
out of him and I was I was trying to

1203
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:22,780
film my last one when my friend David

1204
01:07:27,690 --> 01:07:27,370
was here we didn't do meditation or

1205
01:07:29,580 --> 01:07:27,700
anything

1206
01:07:32,070 --> 01:07:29,590
I was literally describing the c5 and

1207
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:32,080
how contact works through the app and

1208
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:35,410
what we use and less than five minutes

1209
01:07:41,930 --> 01:07:37,690
we hadn't even laid our cigarette I

1210
01:07:45,050 --> 01:07:41,940
think I started playing the tones and

1211
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:45,060
around 300 feet away from my back door

1212
01:07:53,010 --> 01:07:48,730
above the neighbor's house is two

1213
01:07:56,340 --> 01:07:53,020
beautiful white white orbs it looks like

1214
01:07:59,280 --> 01:07:56,350
a pair of headlights and I'm like wow is

1215
01:08:01,260 --> 01:07:59,290
that hey do you seeing this a nice he

1216
01:08:01,910 --> 01:08:01,270
grabbed me on the shoulder what the [\h__\h]

1217
01:08:05,580 --> 01:08:01,920
is that

1218
01:08:07,740 --> 01:08:05,590
Dave said sorry mate we've just been

1219
01:08:11,060 --> 01:08:07,750
described in c5 and how it works and

1220
01:08:13,980 --> 01:08:11,070
there they are mate seriously and

1221
01:08:16,980 --> 01:08:13,990
because we've taken our thoughts away

1222
01:08:19,860 --> 01:08:16,990
and started talking they're bored they

1223
01:08:22,350 --> 01:08:19,870
disappear so they slowly dematerializing

1224
01:08:26,220 --> 01:08:22,360
it's gone yeah there's nothing in the

1225
01:08:29,130 --> 01:08:26,230
sky it's clear totally clear so Dave

1226
01:08:31,170 --> 01:08:29,140
turns around and runs into his wife yeah

1227
01:08:32,610 --> 01:08:31,180
we've just been outside for less than 2

1228
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:32,620
minutes look more folks filling me in

1229
01:08:45,540 --> 01:08:37,210
we're just into UFOs outside and sadly

1230
01:08:47,550 --> 01:08:45,550
she wasn't that interested besides my

1231
01:08:49,229 --> 01:08:47,560
friend was allowed in joints to cau I

1232
01:08:51,209 --> 01:08:49,239
first wanna know

1233
01:08:53,430 --> 01:08:51,219
Oberlin is this there was three lights

1234
01:08:54,959 --> 01:08:53,440
in the line and it kept going behind the

1235
01:08:56,190 --> 01:08:54,969
cloud and coming back out again and then

1236
01:08:58,470 --> 01:08:56,200
go and banned the clown coming back out

1237
01:09:00,030 --> 01:08:58,480
again it moves slowly to our eye and

1238
01:09:06,539 --> 01:09:00,040
vanish straight in front of our eyes and

1239
01:09:16,530 --> 01:09:06,549
she went sorry that's the connection

1240
01:09:18,870 --> 01:09:16,540
between you impressed at all well see we

1241
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:18,880
were talking I was describing to

1242
01:09:25,440 --> 01:09:21,489
Christians brother see Christine's the

1243
01:09:28,170 --> 01:09:25,450
one who had the encounter with me I was

1244
01:09:33,050 --> 01:09:28,180
waiting for Chris at his mum's house and

1245
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:33,060
his brother was there so we he watched

1246
01:09:41,999 --> 01:09:38,650
my v8 craft video on YouTube and then

1247
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:42,009
said well how do you do it then so I was

1248
01:09:48,690 --> 01:09:44,770
basically describing c5 as you do yeah

1249
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:48,700
and we went out to the balcony and I

1250
01:09:55,830 --> 01:09:53,130
said Aaron right just to just saw we're

1251
01:09:58,260 --> 01:09:55,840
I'm going to point in the sky look in

1252
01:10:00,510 --> 01:09:58,270
that specific part of the sky so there's

1253
01:10:01,950 --> 01:10:00,520
a tree to the left hand side and there's

1254
01:10:04,650 --> 01:10:01,960
a flat to the right-hand side the only

1255
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:04,660
space that we can physically look at is

1256
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:08,610
around 10 meters wide in front of us so

1257
01:10:18,090 --> 01:10:11,530
you can imagine several thousand feet in

1258
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:18,100
the sky behind the tree sorry so I say

1259
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:20,530
look in that part of the sky and ask

1260
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:23,890
them to show and they will I said that

1261
01:10:27,750 --> 01:10:25,810
all calmly without a smile on my face

1262
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:27,760
purposely we were laughing and joking

1263
01:10:34,890 --> 01:10:31,890
inside so we we went outside to prove it

1264
01:10:39,810 --> 01:10:34,900
so I say to Aaron again look up in that

1265
01:10:41,610 --> 01:10:39,820
part of the sky noble show he does that

1266
01:10:45,390 --> 01:10:41,620
he stands there for a few seconds

1267
01:10:50,220 --> 01:10:45,400
doesn't even enter a minute and one

1268
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:50,230
perfectly bright white wall shows up and

1269
01:10:59,760 --> 01:10:53,530
I told you I loved that moment when you

1270
01:11:02,280 --> 01:10:59,770
turn around and say I told you yes and

1271
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:02,290
you can see the sort of worry in his

1272
01:11:06,450 --> 01:11:03,130
eyes

1273
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:06,460
what's that well you know what it is now

1274
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:09,730
ask them to flash for you asking for

1275
01:11:13,440 --> 01:11:11,530
escort don't have to say out loud if you

1276
01:11:16,230 --> 01:11:13,450
don't want to ask for it to flash and

1277
01:11:18,810 --> 01:11:16,240
this beautiful brilliant white light it

1278
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:18,820
was massive absolutely massive bright

1279
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:23,170
white flash I said right so you don't

1280
01:11:26,940 --> 01:11:24,730
think that this thing is just coming

1281
01:11:29,580 --> 01:11:26,950
towards us flashing randomly ask it to

1282
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:29,590
flash when you want ask it to flash

1283
01:11:35,250 --> 01:11:31,330
again do it for a second time to confirm

1284
01:11:38,490 --> 01:11:35,260
its gonna come confirm its responding to

1285
01:11:39,870 --> 01:11:38,500
you and me so we both look we don't say

1286
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:39,880
it out loud we say it in our heads

1287
01:11:47,550 --> 01:11:43,330
please flash the second time a beautiful

1288
01:11:50,490 --> 01:11:47,560
white light flashes again so I pause for

1289
01:11:52,260 --> 01:11:50,500
a minute thinking this is awesome we've

1290
01:11:53,940 --> 01:11:52,270
both got bloody phones enough in our

1291
01:11:57,390 --> 01:11:53,950
pockets and we don't get them out I

1292
01:12:02,190 --> 01:11:57,400
don't know why we didn't but for a third

1293
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:02,200
time we asked it to flash and it does so

1294
01:12:08,130 --> 01:12:03,370
there's at least a minute and a half

1295
01:12:10,440 --> 01:12:08,140
between asking for them for them to

1296
01:12:14,490 --> 01:12:10,450
respond and knowing that this is no

1297
01:12:16,590 --> 01:12:14,500
plane beacon this is no flashing LED

1298
01:12:18,870 --> 01:12:16,600
light anywhere this is not a plane this

1299
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:18,880
is not random you asked this to come

1300
01:12:25,110 --> 01:12:21,850
with me I'm just trying to prove a point

1301
01:12:28,710 --> 01:12:25,120
here oh and for the last time it flashed

1302
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:28,720
again but all of a sudden its border

1303
01:12:34,440 --> 01:12:31,690
flashing it starts zipping from point to

1304
01:12:35,430 --> 01:12:34,450
point in the sky hundreds of feet

1305
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:35,440
between them

1306
01:12:41,340 --> 01:12:37,210
zipping all over and you can see it

1307
01:12:43,590 --> 01:12:41,350
sparkling so it flashes at each point is

1308
01:12:48,570 --> 01:12:43,600
that it's stopped there yeah several

1309
01:12:51,090 --> 01:12:48,580
hundred feet away yeah and flashing it

1310
01:12:55,250 --> 01:12:51,100
every point it stops and then all of a

1311
01:13:02,610 --> 01:12:58,770
I would suggested to him that we need to

1312
01:13:04,470 --> 01:13:02,620
keep our thought sequence on it and stop

1313
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:04,480
talking about other things at that

1314
01:13:08,370 --> 01:13:05,890
moment in time we stopped talking

1315
01:13:11,370 --> 01:13:08,380
because we were freaked out it was it

1316
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:11,380
was shooting all over the sky and just

1317
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:15,330
playing games now it was it looked bored

1318
01:13:18,630 --> 01:13:16,810
that was

1319
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:18,640
really shocking but his jaw did hit the

1320
01:13:24,780 --> 01:13:21,850
ground at that point he's just walked

1321
01:13:26,970 --> 01:13:24,790
into his mum and he's shown that ma'am

1322
01:13:35,190 --> 01:13:26,980
we've just seen a UFO outside Darren's

1323
01:13:38,910 --> 01:13:35,200
to show be told you you need something

1324
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:38,920
Morrow doing it again and again and the

1325
01:13:44,130 --> 01:13:42,250
whole disbeliefs kind of thing when I

1326
01:13:46,530 --> 01:13:44,140
first moved into this house which is

1327
01:13:48,750 --> 01:13:46,540
about four years ago and it went outside

1328
01:13:51,870 --> 01:13:48,760
and that's not in the garden and I've

1329
01:13:53,790 --> 01:13:51,880
smoked and I was having a cig and

1330
01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:53,800
looking and I just sort of looked at the

1331
01:14:00,480 --> 01:13:56,770
sky and this you know the flash flash

1332
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:00,490
flash so you know I see that so often I

1333
01:14:04,980 --> 01:14:02,530
was like ah what do you do you know what

1334
01:14:08,370 --> 01:14:04,990
what's possible glean from that you know

1335
01:14:10,110 --> 01:14:08,380
what it doesn't make any difference you

1336
01:14:12,990 --> 01:14:10,120
do in that you know you need to do

1337
01:14:13,710 --> 01:14:13,000
something bigger like yeah what is the

1338
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:13,720
point in that

1339
01:14:20,070 --> 01:14:17,650
well the next day in the paper there's a

1340
01:14:23,070 --> 01:14:20,080
report that these big blue light had

1341
01:14:26,550 --> 01:14:23,080
been zipping from over here to Old Swan

1342
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:26,560
and back to Old Swan and there were

1343
01:14:29,070 --> 01:14:27,850
people out there were loads of people

1344
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:29,080
out in the street and they were all

1345
01:14:36,330 --> 01:14:31,690
watching it I didn't see it I said well

1346
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:36,340
I thought I saw some must be a plane

1347
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:38,170
because we only had John Lennon Airport

1348
01:14:43,470 --> 01:14:41,410
so yeah we get a lot of flashes and

1349
01:14:45,090 --> 01:14:43,480
you've got the long distance travel you

1350
01:14:47,460 --> 01:14:45,100
know we get a lot of planes going over

1351
01:14:49,140 --> 01:14:47,470
but anyway I just saw this light and it

1352
01:14:52,230 --> 01:14:49,150
was between the houses and Garland's

1353
01:14:54,330 --> 01:14:52,240
could have been out but then it was in

1354
01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:54,340
the paper and it was on I don't know it

1355
01:15:00,750 --> 01:14:56,050
wasn't on the news I'm lying it was all

1356
01:15:02,340 --> 01:15:00,760
over social media but it was in the it

1357
01:15:04,410 --> 01:15:02,350
was in the paper that all these people

1358
01:15:05,490 --> 01:15:04,420
listened and I thought was that for me

1359
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:05,500
was that because I said do something

1360
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:13,570
bigger right it was perfect makes

1361
01:15:22,110 --> 01:15:20,170
perfect school you know like cuz you

1362
01:15:24,780 --> 01:15:22,120
think no doing for me anything well you

1363
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:24,790
did say that and you did see that and no

1364
01:15:29,589 --> 01:15:26,610
one's gonna believe it and you did

1365
01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:29,599
already think she crazy so

1366
01:15:41,649 --> 01:15:37,489
you know and you're just like in a state

1367
01:15:46,899 --> 01:15:41,659
of incredulity forever like half gaping

1368
01:15:49,089 --> 01:15:46,909
looking around like a commensal but so I

1369
01:15:49,689 --> 01:15:49,099
think it's all going on in that in my

1370
01:15:51,910 --> 01:15:49,699
head

1371
01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:51,920
it's you know I might be stuck there

1372
01:15:56,050 --> 01:15:54,290
just looking old whatever like just

1373
01:15:57,850 --> 01:15:56,060
sitting still but I'm not in my brain

1374
01:16:00,760 --> 01:15:57,860
it's like I need to know this I need to

1375
01:16:02,609 --> 01:16:00,770
know that was that for me yep and it

1376
01:16:05,229 --> 01:16:02,619
just gets worse and worse

1377
01:16:08,020 --> 01:16:05,239
you're insane thinking that that's for

1378
01:16:12,459 --> 01:16:08,030
you you know like get over yourself and

1379
01:16:14,890 --> 01:16:12,469
all that kind of stuff I've been there

1380
01:16:19,620 --> 01:16:14,900
and done oh my god is just trying to

1381
01:16:23,830 --> 01:16:19,630
dismiss it it's not happening because

1382
01:16:27,490 --> 01:16:23,840
yeah because we start after maybe a

1383
01:16:32,339 --> 01:16:27,500
month between that we we were working in

1384
01:16:35,950 --> 01:16:32,349
I think it was Leon solo or gospel

1385
01:16:39,819 --> 01:16:35,960
basically we would stopped work went

1386
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:39,829
down to the beach to just chill because

1387
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:43,730
sadly my friends mum passed away the day

1388
01:16:51,700 --> 01:16:47,690
before and so we were we were trying to

1389
01:16:54,569 --> 01:16:51,710
comfort him any way we could and then

1390
01:16:58,089 --> 01:16:54,579
we're talking about spirits and and

1391
01:17:00,160 --> 01:16:58,099
you'll you'll feel certain things if

1392
01:17:02,319 --> 01:17:00,170
you're feeling that there's ghosts

1393
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:02,329
presents and stuff like that we were

1394
01:17:09,430 --> 01:17:06,170
having a very bizarre conversation but

1395
01:17:14,229 --> 01:17:09,440
it went on to what I showed Dave in

1396
01:17:16,870 --> 01:17:14,239
garden and basically I went into telling

1397
01:17:22,930 --> 01:17:16,880
them about contact them see you five

1398
01:17:25,589 --> 01:17:22,940
again and I'd say less than less than

1399
01:17:30,510 --> 01:17:25,599
two minutes again and we have three

1400
01:17:35,339 --> 01:17:30,520
right but they were bright but they were

1401
01:17:38,770 --> 01:17:35,349
off-white very odd but very circular

1402
01:17:40,390 --> 01:17:38,780
so we had three tone up this time but

1403
01:17:44,440 --> 01:17:40,400
strangely that date it was three of us

1404
01:17:46,750 --> 01:17:44,450
and when there's two of us to turn up

1405
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:46,760
strange thought or strange coincidence

1406
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:51,890
but so three bright white orbs more off

1407
01:17:58,240 --> 01:17:54,890
white orbs show up but the strange thing

1408
01:18:01,870 --> 01:17:58,250
was one separated from the two and when

1409
01:18:06,010 --> 01:18:01,880
out quite fast I'd say maybe 10 15 mile

1410
01:18:07,900 --> 01:18:06,020
an hour came out about 30 feet away from

1411
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:07,910
the other two this is directly above our

1412
01:18:15,460 --> 01:18:12,770
heads around 30 feet separated from the

1413
01:18:18,970 --> 01:18:15,470
two and then came back and when it came

1414
01:18:22,300 --> 01:18:18,980
back it was an instant stop into a

1415
01:18:24,610 --> 01:18:22,310
triangular formation and then they D

1416
01:18:26,260 --> 01:18:24,620
materialized by habit behind our heads

1417
01:18:28,620 --> 01:18:26,270
but just above us yeah

1418
01:18:31,050 --> 01:18:28,630
so as we're turning our heads just to

1419
01:18:34,030 --> 01:18:31,060
stop the crookneck

1420
01:18:38,470 --> 01:18:34,040
they then D materialized and all three

1421
01:18:42,100 --> 01:18:38,480
of us wow that was amazing but this is

1422
01:18:45,340 --> 01:18:42,110
twice for David and once just to confirm

1423
01:18:50,440 --> 01:18:45,350
for the other day so they both named

1424
01:18:55,210 --> 01:18:50,450
Dave so again proving a point that they

1425
01:18:57,760 --> 01:18:55,220
do show and you can show people but

1426
01:19:03,400 --> 01:18:57,770
we're all capable of this as well that's

1427
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:03,410
in my opinion when you're I don't know

1428
01:19:14,620 --> 01:19:12,170
if something clicks acknowledge there's

1429
01:19:16,660 --> 01:19:14,630
a lot of people I think some people it's

1430
01:19:19,300 --> 01:19:16,670
just not for them and it doesn't exist

1431
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:19,310
in their worlds at all it's going on

1432
01:19:23,440 --> 01:19:21,290
you know parading around in front of us

1433
01:19:25,030 --> 01:19:23,450
but not in front of everybody

1434
01:19:27,790 --> 01:19:25,040
otherwise everyone would believe

1435
01:19:30,340 --> 01:19:27,800
wouldn't I everyone would say all right

1436
01:19:33,820 --> 01:19:30,350
that said so many times why don't I see

1437
01:19:37,450 --> 01:19:33,830
anything what do you see well on trying

1438
01:19:38,980 --> 01:19:37,460
you're not well even I think some people

1439
01:19:41,740 --> 01:19:38,990
even when they try they just can't learn

1440
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:41,750
I mean like my friend yeah like they go

1441
01:19:47,770 --> 01:19:44,570
there's there's a craft of unknown

1442
01:19:49,350 --> 01:19:47,780
origin and it's just D materialized

1443
01:19:56,959 --> 01:19:49,360
right in front of our eyes

1444
01:20:07,959 --> 01:19:59,180
you just had contact with an

1445
01:20:21,110 --> 01:20:11,420
and our solar system and how it actually

1446
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:21,120
operates yeah what are we are we I saw

1447
01:20:29,030 --> 01:20:24,690
the helix vortex solar system model

1448
01:20:31,670 --> 01:20:29,040
which is up accurate not this like Sun

1449
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:31,680
with the rings around it and all the

1450
01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:34,290
planets in different places in this card

1451
01:20:38,180 --> 01:20:36,449
it's not like that's all this one's like

1452
01:20:39,770 --> 01:20:38,190
a comet no we're all spinning like crazy

1453
01:20:43,220 --> 01:20:39,780
are going around it and there's like

1454
01:20:45,740 --> 01:20:43,230
this dance around this ball of fires

1455
01:20:48,229 --> 01:20:45,750
were actually hurtling forward I mean I

1456
01:20:50,930 --> 01:20:48,239
knew we were moving right and you were

1457
01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:50,940
moving forwards but when you look at the

1458
01:20:55,700 --> 01:20:53,489
normal kind of model of the solar system

1459
01:20:57,860 --> 01:20:55,710
as represented it at school it's nothing

1460
01:21:06,590 --> 01:20:57,870
like the reality and then when I saw the

1461
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:06,600
reality I was like oh my god I would

1462
01:21:15,890 --> 01:21:13,530
behave and that's why we live and it's

1463
01:21:17,810 --> 01:21:15,900
all about destruction just blows my mind

1464
01:21:20,209 --> 01:21:17,820
I just think what are we and we've gone

1465
01:21:22,939 --> 01:21:20,219
about aliens and it's things that are

1466
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:22,949
impossible we I hear people talking

1467
01:21:29,390 --> 01:21:26,850
about impossibilities and I like I would

1468
01:21:31,189 --> 01:21:29,400
just like to explain the reality of our

1469
01:21:33,620 --> 01:21:31,199
existence and put it in front of

1470
01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:33,630
somebody and say you know if this wasn't

1471
01:21:38,150 --> 01:21:36,330
actually a reality would you think that

1472
01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:38,160
any of that was possible that we're

1473
01:21:45,110 --> 01:21:40,770
spinning at 3000 miles an hour well

1474
01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:45,120
being crushed by 10 tons of pressure per

1475
01:21:52,370 --> 01:21:48,449
square inch you know no you'd die you'd

1476
01:21:52,610 --> 01:21:52,380
be dead well well not are we though well

1477
01:21:54,700 --> 01:21:52,620
we

1478
01:21:57,860 --> 01:21:54,710
[Laughter]

1479
01:22:00,350 --> 01:21:57,870
you know we're conscious conscious

1480
01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:00,360
sentient beings like that I would like

1481
01:22:04,070 --> 01:22:01,890
to let everybody live with their own

1482
01:22:09,830 --> 01:22:04,080
delusions as long as they don't try and

1483
01:22:11,750 --> 01:22:09,840
trample mine I know I'm deluded I know I

1484
01:22:12,890 --> 01:22:11,760
don't know what everything is everybody

1485
01:22:17,090 --> 01:22:12,900
else seems to think that they've got

1486
01:22:21,820 --> 01:22:17,100
everything pegged down you know you're

1487
01:22:25,030 --> 01:22:21,830
very clever I mean yeah I mean I've seen

1488
01:22:28,660 --> 01:22:25,040
various craft solid craft I've seen

1489
01:22:31,070 --> 01:22:28,670
cigar-shaped craft yeah this was going

1490
01:22:31,490 --> 01:22:31,080
according to my brain thousands of miles

1491
01:22:35,090 --> 01:22:31,500
an hour

1492
01:22:38,210 --> 01:22:35,100
yeah was it from hundreds of miles that

1493
01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:38,220
way to the left of my house I'd believe

1494
01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:44,130
that self to east in less than three

1495
01:22:48,380 --> 01:22:47,130
seconds yeah you know wow that was quick

1496
01:22:54,650 --> 01:22:48,390
that wasn't for me

1497
01:22:56,270 --> 01:22:54,660
but random as well they are but one one

1498
01:22:58,160 --> 01:22:56,280
could be I think some of it is

1499
01:23:00,680 --> 01:22:58,170
definitely ours I think we've got that

1500
01:23:03,140 --> 01:23:00,690
technology down no Pat and I think we

1501
01:23:04,970 --> 01:23:03,150
have done since they thought isn't early

1502
01:23:06,530 --> 01:23:04,980
50s and I think that's why all they were

1503
01:23:08,690 --> 01:23:06,540
all different those crashes I don't

1504
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:08,700
think they were all aliens I think they

1505
01:23:14,390 --> 01:23:12,570
were always trying to fly maybe you know

1506
01:23:18,910 --> 01:23:14,400
I don't know about reversing engineered

1507
01:23:23,390 --> 01:23:18,920
stuff maybe but we certainly and on

1508
01:23:27,650 --> 01:23:23,400
anti-gravity but maybe not military

1509
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:27,660
excetera but you know I think well

1510
01:23:32,590 --> 01:23:30,570
advanced now which just disgusts me that

1511
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:32,600
they don't release this kind of

1512
01:23:36,590 --> 01:23:34,530
technology that could certainly squirrel

1513
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:36,600
into something worth living for all of

1514
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:39,210
us I mean like for all of us not just

1515
01:23:48,620 --> 01:23:42,570
the few you know I mean I'm not gonna

1516
01:23:52,050 --> 01:23:48,630
get political now but don't do polish it

1517
01:23:58,380 --> 01:23:56,730
we have got a crazy existence and you

1518
01:23:59,880 --> 01:23:58,390
know you get used to it though don't you

1519
01:24:01,380 --> 01:23:59,890
when people say that they don't believe

1520
01:24:04,050 --> 01:24:01,390
in things and just say well I don't

1521
01:24:06,540 --> 01:24:04,060
blame you if you could naturally be a

1522
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:06,550
genuinely mean that when you say I don't

1523
01:24:12,390 --> 01:24:09,250
blame you then you can have a little bit

1524
01:24:15,510 --> 01:24:12,400
of an easier time because you know when

1525
01:24:16,470 --> 01:24:15,520
I was first started talking and bottled

1526
01:24:18,660 --> 01:24:16,480
it up for years

1527
01:24:24,810 --> 01:24:18,670
and so it was just like this dam had

1528
01:24:26,580 --> 01:24:24,820
burst and I didn't I thought I knew a

1529
01:24:28,230 --> 01:24:26,590
lot about what had happened to me

1530
01:24:29,910 --> 01:24:28,240
because I was listening to people that I

1531
01:24:31,650 --> 01:24:29,920
came into contact with on the net and

1532
01:24:34,590 --> 01:24:31,660
they said oh you loved being abducted

1533
01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:34,600
burn and you know in Wales and you live

1534
01:24:40,590 --> 01:24:38,770
at he loved he loved an implant in your

1535
01:24:43,230 --> 01:24:40,600
nose and then you spine and in your

1536
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:43,240
hound and then you know like oh my god

1537
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:44,410
really

1538
01:24:50,250 --> 01:24:47,770
you know well I do have something funny

1539
01:24:58,230 --> 01:24:50,260
moving in the back of my neck but if you

1540
01:25:12,450 --> 01:24:58,240
had it checked out no doctors I think

1541
01:25:14,970 --> 01:25:12,460
I've got an employment I think well we

1542
01:25:17,460 --> 01:25:14,980
know that these implants are real we

1543
01:25:19,440 --> 01:25:17,470
know about some people can refuse to

1544
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:19,450
believe it if they want but you know

1545
01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:21,370
what people are overdone for fun now

1546
01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:26,410
so yeah well have you ever met Kate for

1547
01:25:34,020 --> 01:25:28,770
well spent no I haven't actually

1548
01:25:37,170 --> 01:25:34,030
she's got 29 implants she has them in

1549
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:37,180
symmetrical order on on a all over her

1550
01:25:39,270 --> 01:25:37,570
body

1551
01:25:43,580 --> 01:25:39,280
to be honest I've seen the magnets that

1552
01:25:48,630 --> 01:25:43,590
actually stick to them that blew my mind

1553
01:25:52,140 --> 01:25:48,640
yeah disorganized cans images or

1554
01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:52,150
anything yeah it's all being checked out

1555
01:26:00,780 --> 01:25:54,970
by they're all W Sims at the moment I

1556
01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:00,790
believe Darryl Darryl

1557
01:26:15,090 --> 01:26:09,120
at one stage sorry when I met her she

1558
01:26:17,910 --> 01:26:15,100
had 25 and today she has 29 and she's

1559
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:17,920
had encounters from a very early age

1560
01:26:29,370 --> 01:26:25,090
yeah well you know I've had my spider on

1561
01:26:32,899 --> 01:26:29,380
my legs MRI there's my neck there's

1562
01:26:37,979 --> 01:26:32,909
nothing there but my arms and my hands

1563
01:26:40,050 --> 01:26:37,989
have not been even x-rayed so so we

1564
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:40,060
should organize somebody to bring that

1565
01:26:44,910 --> 01:26:42,250
device with them I'm sure somebody did

1566
01:26:52,129 --> 01:26:44,920
that few years ago I think it was Miles

1567
01:27:01,129 --> 01:26:54,689
it just looked like a sex toys to be

1568
01:27:04,649 --> 01:27:01,139
honest ya know Oh absolute travesty

1569
01:27:09,419 --> 01:27:04,659
confessions of an alien abductee and it

1570
01:27:11,970 --> 01:27:09,429
was Marie who I think it was Marie

1571
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:11,980
pretty sure it was Mary who had the

1572
01:27:22,340 --> 01:27:17,530
signal coming from a body and some yeah

1573
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:22,350
weird kind of green stuff in her skin I

1574
01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:24,610
don't think it was on her skin because I

1575
01:27:30,780 --> 01:27:26,170
don't think it worked off it was kind of

1576
01:27:33,570 --> 01:27:30,790
in her skin somehow and I know that in

1577
01:27:37,590 --> 01:27:33,580
one of the conferences in Phoenix

1578
01:27:39,300 --> 01:27:37,600
somebody does that scan in there I've

1579
01:27:40,470 --> 01:27:39,310
never had it done obviously because I've

1580
01:27:44,879 --> 01:27:40,480
never been to one of those major

1581
01:27:50,970 --> 01:27:44,889
conferences and I don't mean miles not

1582
01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:50,980
on exactly good terms anymore damage

1583
01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:52,810
that's been done and nobody's taking any

1584
01:27:57,290 --> 01:27:54,730
responsibility for any other damage that

1585
01:28:01,410 --> 01:27:59,399
yeah we know

1586
01:28:05,340 --> 01:28:01,420
mommy Marie is one of the people that

1587
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:05,350
has been you know extremely hurt by all

1588
01:28:14,339 --> 01:28:09,610
of that and she'll paper as well damage

1589
01:28:15,750 --> 01:28:14,349
to be by the UFO community and you know

1590
01:28:18,459 --> 01:28:15,760
that word community

1591
01:28:22,300 --> 01:28:18,469
oh it's also lovely

1592
01:28:25,510 --> 01:28:22,310
our community now the community just

1593
01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:25,520
feels like a big hug with nasty big

1594
01:28:30,700 --> 01:28:28,250
spikes I just have to drain the ball of

1595
01:28:32,140 --> 01:28:30,710
life out of you and so you're dead and

1596
01:28:34,180 --> 01:28:32,150
they chased you off because you're the

1597
01:28:41,939 --> 01:28:34,190
real deal we can't have the real deal

1598
01:28:50,550 --> 01:28:44,860
where people with feelings with true

1599
01:28:57,640 --> 01:28:50,560
life stories just text on the screen

1600
01:29:00,970 --> 01:28:57,650
yeah we show them to their faces and

1601
01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:00,980
then it all becomes true what my wife

1602
01:29:14,350 --> 01:29:04,690
seen them my children have seen them I

1603
01:29:15,910 --> 01:29:14,360
can go on remember clearly obviously

1604
01:29:18,670 --> 01:29:15,920
because it was only six but he does

1605
01:29:20,709 --> 01:29:18,680
remember being scared and he remembers

1606
01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:20,719
the lights and he remembers the stick

1607
01:29:29,860 --> 01:29:24,290
hand come he's coming through the hedge

1608
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:29,870
yes yes bless him and I think about that

1609
01:29:37,500 --> 01:29:34,850
night breaks me out you know I feel like

1610
01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:37,510
I should have tried to reassure you but

1611
01:29:43,770 --> 01:29:39,890
were you not in the same state that I

1612
01:29:46,570 --> 01:29:43,780
will feel like I had that control yeah I

1613
01:29:48,700 --> 01:29:46,580
didn't even fully comprehend what was

1614
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:48,710
happening to us to be fair you know and

1615
01:29:53,050 --> 01:29:50,810
I think Steve started to get a little

1616
01:29:53,530 --> 01:29:53,060
bit worried John was completely freaked

1617
01:29:57,060 --> 01:29:53,540
out

1618
01:30:00,400 --> 01:29:57,070
dunya and I would just kind of like

1619
01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:00,410
staring at a little bit like you know

1620
01:30:06,370 --> 01:30:03,530
almost not not scared there was no

1621
01:30:10,570 --> 01:30:06,380
scared expression on her face it was

1622
01:30:12,670 --> 01:30:10,580
wonderful and uh and I know that I felt

1623
01:30:14,890 --> 01:30:12,680
exactly the same was I was looking up it

1624
01:30:17,260 --> 01:30:14,900
and when I was going back outside by

1625
01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:17,270
myself to go walking towards it I

1626
01:30:24,130 --> 01:30:20,570
actually remember kind of you know weeks

1627
01:30:26,530 --> 01:30:24,140
of hahaha laughs and you sort of shaky

1628
01:30:30,910 --> 01:30:26,540
right yeah yeah deep thought oh you've

1629
01:30:31,970 --> 01:30:30,920
just reminded me go on you have it made

1630
01:30:38,270 --> 01:30:31,980
me feel

1631
01:30:41,150 --> 01:30:38,280
childish I felt stupid literally and I

1632
01:30:48,670 --> 01:30:41,160
felt that several times over stood in a

1633
01:30:54,260 --> 01:30:50,860
especially we walked around the whole

1634
01:30:56,680 --> 01:30:54,270
whole crop circle and we reached the

1635
01:30:59,600 --> 01:30:56,690
middle and we found these three notes

1636
01:31:02,270 --> 01:30:59,610
I've got pictures of what they say it

1637
01:31:04,850 --> 01:31:02,280
was very odd whether there was the

1638
01:31:07,780 --> 01:31:04,860
makers or people who have visited I'm

1639
01:31:14,750 --> 01:31:07,790
not sure what's going on there but I

1640
01:31:17,390 --> 01:31:14,760
felt very weak like I was going to pass

1641
01:31:20,090 --> 01:31:17,400
out literally in the middle in the crop

1642
01:31:24,260 --> 01:31:20,100
circle before there I felt very childish

1643
01:31:26,060 --> 01:31:24,270
and giggly so I get that most times when

1644
01:31:27,560 --> 01:31:26,070
I meditate actually sometimes it can

1645
01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:27,570
make me laugh out loud like this

1646
01:31:39,620 --> 01:31:30,930
something here and it lends me a shock

1647
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:39,630
they very old it was just nothing going

1648
01:31:44,630 --> 01:31:42,570
on mired nothing going on in my head and

1649
01:31:47,540 --> 01:31:44,640
I sort of laughed at the situation at

1650
01:31:49,820 --> 01:31:47,550
how ridiculous it was not how ridiculous

1651
01:31:52,570 --> 01:31:49,830
I was going out by myself to stand right

1652
01:32:00,410 --> 01:31:52,580
underneath the sodden you went back out

1653
01:32:03,979 --> 01:32:00,420
why self are you no are you mad or

1654
01:32:07,310 --> 01:32:03,989
anything a curiosity did you check the

1655
01:32:08,930 --> 01:32:07,320
time Steve says it was around about

1656
01:32:12,440 --> 01:32:08,940
half-past seven when I went outside

1657
01:32:15,470 --> 01:32:12,450
because he checked the time but again on

1658
01:32:18,530 --> 01:32:15,480
your own I well he went out by himself

1659
01:32:20,240 --> 01:32:18,540
and he saw it then he shouted in he saw

1660
01:32:22,340 --> 01:32:20,250
it in the distance and he shouted me

1661
01:32:24,170 --> 01:32:22,350
downstairs so I came downstairs and I

1662
01:32:26,810 --> 01:32:24,180
couldn't see it and then I eventually

1663
01:32:29,240 --> 01:32:26,820
clocked on to I was pointing and I saw a

1664
01:32:31,400 --> 01:32:29,250
little flicker and I said it's lightning

1665
01:32:33,740 --> 01:32:31,410
and he said it's not like name watch it

1666
01:32:36,290 --> 01:32:33,750
and because I knew where it was that I

1667
01:32:38,180 --> 01:32:36,300
was watching and it came on and it went

1668
01:32:39,590 --> 01:32:38,190
off and it came on and it went off when

1669
01:32:41,750 --> 01:32:39,600
it came on and it went off and it was

1670
01:32:44,630 --> 01:32:41,760
moving so where's all right and I was

1671
01:32:45,380 --> 01:32:44,640
like oh wow yeah that's something weird

1672
01:32:48,410 --> 01:32:45,390
that was

1673
01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:48,420
you know because it was just like a of

1674
01:32:54,290 --> 01:32:50,970
lights and it was rippling and you could

1675
01:32:58,940 --> 01:32:54,300
see you know it was really really bright

1676
01:33:00,710 --> 01:32:58,950
then it stopped moving and it kind of

1677
01:33:03,410 --> 01:33:00,720
started to come towards us really slowly

1678
01:33:05,810 --> 01:33:03,420
it come over really quickly or anything

1679
01:33:07,820 --> 01:33:05,820
like that and it's zigzagged he'd seeks

1680
01:33:12,350 --> 01:33:07,830
out and it did these it was almost like

1681
01:33:14,540 --> 01:33:12,360
a zigzag was so exaggerated that that's

1682
01:33:16,070 --> 01:33:14,550
how it had to maneuver I don't think it

1683
01:33:17,780 --> 01:33:16,080
could move in a straight line I don't

1684
01:33:19,910 --> 01:33:17,790
know it was weird because it went right

1685
01:33:21,710 --> 01:33:19,920
after our right so it was behind the

1686
01:33:24,170 --> 01:33:21,720
house and then came all the way back

1687
01:33:26,690 --> 01:33:24,180
over to the left so it was right away

1688
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:26,700
from us but in front of the I don't know

1689
01:33:32,630 --> 01:33:29,930
maybe a few hundred yards away from us

1690
01:33:35,690 --> 01:33:32,640
over the field in front of the house and

1691
01:33:37,220 --> 01:33:35,700
then slowly drifted over towards it so I

1692
01:33:39,770 --> 01:33:37,230
don't understand why it didn't just come

1693
01:33:42,170 --> 01:33:39,780
in a straight line to walk towards us

1694
01:33:44,810 --> 01:33:42,180
and where it was from where it was and

1695
01:33:46,670 --> 01:33:44,820
why it had to zigzag and white kind of

1696
01:33:50,180 --> 01:33:46,680
overshot the house and then came back

1697
01:33:53,090 --> 01:33:50,190
again and then you know you drifted so

1698
01:33:58,130 --> 01:33:53,100
slowly until it was over the house it

1699
01:33:59,600 --> 01:33:58,140
was really really slow you know and we

1700
01:34:01,100 --> 01:33:59,610
were out I don't even know how long we

1701
01:34:03,070 --> 01:34:01,110
were out there I have no idea of the

1702
01:34:05,170 --> 01:34:03,080
time at all I couldn't tell you and

1703
01:34:07,580 --> 01:34:05,180
because it was February was already dark

1704
01:34:16,310 --> 01:34:07,590
probably dark around about five o'clock

1705
01:34:20,750 --> 01:34:16,320
so no idea yeah and then obviously

1706
01:34:22,460 --> 01:34:20,760
because my son Louie got scared and we

1707
01:34:24,910 --> 01:34:22,470
felt that John was obviously not having

1708
01:34:26,900 --> 01:34:24,920
a good time a bit with little Joseph I

1709
01:34:28,580 --> 01:34:26,910
said to Steve the kids are getting

1710
01:34:32,090 --> 01:34:28,590
scared and he said come on let's take

1711
01:34:40,520 --> 01:34:32,100
him in the house so we did and then John

1712
01:34:42,020 --> 01:34:40,530
had done nothing that's where the wire

1713
01:34:43,460 --> 01:34:42,030
when I came downstairs and went just

1714
01:34:45,770 --> 01:34:43,470
back to where they were when I came

1715
01:34:47,330 --> 01:34:45,780
downstairs and Steven obviously been

1716
01:34:48,860 --> 01:34:47,340
washing up because he said that he was

1717
01:34:50,720 --> 01:34:48,870
washing up and he thought about going to

1718
01:34:53,390 --> 01:34:50,730
look at the sky and I'll know it's

1719
01:34:55,010 --> 01:34:53,400
cloudy oh no they were like clouds why

1720
01:34:58,500 --> 01:34:55,020
would he even think oh no they like

1721
01:35:01,700 --> 01:34:58,510
clouds like you know me

1722
01:35:07,110 --> 01:35:01,710
so then obviously I went out by myself

1723
01:35:08,160 --> 01:35:07,120
laughing walked up the gap like oh

1724
01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:08,170
Christ

1725
01:35:13,979 --> 01:35:12,010
it literally toes are cold to think that

1726
01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:13,989
I actually went out by myself without

1727
01:35:18,630 --> 01:35:16,090
even a thought it's a safety or anything

1728
01:35:19,110 --> 01:35:18,640
nothing nothing nothing was going on in

1729
01:35:22,260 --> 01:35:19,120
my head

1730
01:35:27,270 --> 01:35:22,270
so stood underneath it and I'm literally

1731
01:35:31,560 --> 01:35:27,280
like now what ha ha you know yeah oh

1732
01:35:33,180 --> 01:35:31,570
[\h__\h] alright feet behind me and

1733
01:35:35,220 --> 01:35:33,190
something bumping into me back and

1734
01:35:36,810 --> 01:35:35,230
running past me but there was nowhere to

1735
01:35:40,290 --> 01:35:36,820
go because I was stuck next to a while

1736
01:35:43,680 --> 01:35:40,300
so that puzzles me as well but then I

1737
01:35:46,260 --> 01:35:43,690
was running and then I realized I was

1738
01:35:47,760 --> 01:35:46,270
running probably by the time I was

1739
01:35:50,670 --> 01:35:47,770
already halfway about to the house cuz I

1740
01:35:54,090 --> 01:35:50,680
was pretty fake you know I could shift I

1741
01:35:57,300 --> 01:35:54,100
was into it's steves as an aerobics

1742
01:36:04,560 --> 01:35:57,310
instructor so with circuits between on

1743
01:36:08,250 --> 01:36:04,570
rest of it very fit and the tries to

1744
01:36:10,410 --> 01:36:08,260
kind of do a bionic woman leap from the

1745
01:36:13,350 --> 01:36:10,420
top set Weber at my side came back into

1746
01:36:15,690 --> 01:36:13,360
focus for a second and then it was like

1747
01:36:17,820 --> 01:36:15,700
flash flash flash I remember a step

1748
01:36:20,070 --> 01:36:17,830
remember the middle of a patio and I

1749
01:36:21,360 --> 01:36:20,080
remember on the kitchen step but there

1750
01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:21,370
was have been a few steps in between

1751
01:36:26,970 --> 01:36:22,810
that but I just don't remember and I

1752
01:36:28,500 --> 01:36:26,980
knew I realized I couldn't see but I

1753
01:36:31,050 --> 01:36:28,510
didn't care I just thought just keep on

1754
01:36:32,370 --> 01:36:31,060
in you know he's just well there didn't

1755
01:36:33,720 --> 01:36:32,380
even think that there was nothing but I

1756
01:36:36,360 --> 01:36:33,730
stopped me from running oh it was a

1757
01:36:40,530 --> 01:36:36,370
flight it was a you know fight or flight

1758
01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:40,540
but then yeah I'm done when I walked in

1759
01:36:45,030 --> 01:36:42,810
the house and when I run in nouse and I

1760
01:36:47,010 --> 01:36:45,040
don't I saw the kids straightaway and I

1761
01:36:50,580 --> 01:36:47,020
thought oh god cut you know and I just

1762
01:36:53,910 --> 01:36:50,590
sort of stood there trembling and he's

1763
01:36:56,280 --> 01:36:53,920
just looked at me I don't they just we I

1764
01:36:59,790 --> 01:36:56,290
mean you know trying to say it without

1765
01:37:02,100 --> 01:36:59,800
being loud and it just looks at the

1766
01:37:03,780 --> 01:37:02,110
clock on the cooker went well you aren't

1767
01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:03,790
being out there long so he want I don't

1768
01:37:11,050 --> 01:37:07,930
have missing time oh that's cool you

1769
01:37:12,790 --> 01:37:11,060
know mean okay you know

1770
01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:12,800
okay the point where everything was over

1771
01:37:23,110 --> 01:37:16,010
for me don't ping brain gone that's it

1772
01:37:26,380 --> 01:37:23,120
yeah really the other one who dog

1773
01:37:28,870 --> 01:37:26,390
healthy without looking crazy and

1774
01:37:31,240 --> 01:37:28,880
obviously it rattled as that much that

1775
01:37:35,500 --> 01:37:31,250
became so disturbs that we fell out and

1776
01:37:37,330 --> 01:37:35,510
I didn't ever see him for 13 years you

1777
01:37:40,030 --> 01:37:37,340
know oh my god yeah I remember reading

1778
01:37:41,680 --> 01:37:40,040
it carry all that time by myself

1779
01:37:45,490 --> 01:37:41,690
wondering if it really happens like that

1780
01:37:51,100 --> 01:37:45,500
and that's the Facebook I found them and

1781
01:37:52,720 --> 01:37:51,110
it really happened like the amount of

1782
01:37:57,790 --> 01:37:52,730
times me and Chris have had that

1783
01:38:03,250 --> 01:37:57,800
conversation it's unreal reconfirming

1784
01:38:07,570 --> 01:38:03,260
for ourselves but then after 2014 me and

1785
01:38:11,680 --> 01:38:07,580
Lee decided to continue I mean I had an

1786
01:38:16,510 --> 01:38:11,690
agenda of my own yeah I must admit I

1787
01:38:19,810 --> 01:38:16,520
needed to confirm sorry the truth Troy

1788
01:38:24,130 --> 01:38:19,820
it's not working Cistus more more more

1789
01:38:27,790 --> 01:38:24,140
and more confusing as you go along but

1790
01:38:29,230 --> 01:38:27,800
to be able to literally do the

1791
01:38:33,040 --> 01:38:29,240
meditation in the car we're at

1792
01:38:37,240 --> 01:38:33,050
Winchester now and me and Lee are in the

1793
01:38:40,240 --> 01:38:37,250
car and the meditation we play the tones

1794
01:38:42,940 --> 01:38:40,250
shortly after the meditation and we turn

1795
01:38:46,960 --> 01:38:42,950
it all off so this is well over half an

1796
01:38:48,790 --> 01:38:46,970
hour we'll work on were relaxed let's do

1797
01:38:52,930 --> 01:38:48,800
this let's get out the car and go Scott

1798
01:38:56,380 --> 01:38:52,940
watch I had a feeling just before that I

1799
01:39:02,100 --> 01:38:56,390
had to get out now I told Lee and he's

1800
01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:02,110
ready to go did we get outside and

1801
01:39:07,990 --> 01:39:04,330
believe we're taking shots

1802
01:39:10,810 --> 01:39:08,000
Lee's taking these taking pictures and

1803
01:39:13,750 --> 01:39:10,820
I've forgot my camera card I think I

1804
01:39:18,690 --> 01:39:13,760
think they're correct so he's taking

1805
01:39:21,820 --> 01:39:18,700
pictures and I'm looking in the field

1806
01:39:24,669 --> 01:39:21,830
all of a sudden we hear what I hear

1807
01:39:27,550 --> 01:39:24,679
first from my right ear to my

1808
01:39:30,750 --> 01:39:27,560
dear the same identical tones that we've

1809
01:39:34,380 --> 01:39:30,760
been playing in the vamp their car

1810
01:39:37,689 --> 01:39:34,390
literally five minutes before I thought

1811
01:39:40,540 --> 01:39:37,699
it moved past from right here to left

1812
01:39:43,680 --> 01:39:40,550
you left there and then leave right here

1813
01:39:46,510 --> 01:39:43,690
to left here and I ducked my head I

1814
01:39:51,910 --> 01:39:46,520
don't know if it hurt or it was loud or

1815
01:39:54,550 --> 01:39:51,920
it was in my head I really confused me I

1816
01:39:54,939 --> 01:39:54,560
said to Lee Lee did did you just hear

1817
01:39:57,729 --> 01:39:54,949
that

1818
01:40:01,899 --> 01:39:57,739
it's a little hot planet yet his face

1819
01:40:03,939 --> 01:40:01,909
his face was white I could see there it

1820
01:40:06,250 --> 01:40:03,949
just heard the same bloody thing we've

1821
01:40:11,439 --> 01:40:06,260
just heard the tones that we play on the

1822
01:40:13,000 --> 01:40:11,449
app for contact I'm turning around I'm

1823
01:40:14,410 --> 01:40:13,010
looking in the field I'm looking around

1824
01:40:17,860 --> 01:40:14,420
man that's freaked me out that's just

1825
01:40:18,780 --> 01:40:17,870
the Meridian is that yeah he's agreeing

1826
01:40:23,169 --> 01:40:18,790
me the whole time

1827
01:40:25,450 --> 01:40:23,179
all of a sudden Lee says there's a craft

1828
01:40:29,169 --> 01:40:25,460
up there and he can see a black

1829
01:40:32,560 --> 01:40:29,179
triangular craft several hundred feet in

1830
01:40:35,790 --> 01:40:32,570
the air and again I hear from the right

1831
01:40:38,620 --> 01:40:35,800
ear to left ear the same tone plate I

1832
01:40:40,180 --> 01:40:38,630
left them I wish I could play it here I

1833
01:40:51,910 --> 01:40:40,190
could put it on loudspeaker and play

1834
01:41:10,640 --> 01:40:54,890
we've got here so we hear from right

1835
01:41:15,380 --> 01:41:10,650
here to left here here this cone yeah so

1836
01:41:24,919 --> 01:41:15,390
we it's ah that's just giving me chills

1837
01:41:29,149 --> 01:41:24,929
but you're inside now I I'll probably

1838
01:41:34,939 --> 01:41:29,159
have a good sky watch off yeah I've gone

1839
01:41:38,780 --> 01:41:34,949
freezing cold Wow um anyway the again

1840
01:41:44,330 --> 01:41:38,790
that one's made me shake because the

1841
01:41:46,399 --> 01:41:44,340
Tony it's a [\h__\h] nap so all this crap

1842
01:41:48,770 --> 01:41:46,409
that this app doesn't work we've just

1843
01:41:51,500 --> 01:41:48,780
heard the same tones recorded by Colin

1844
01:41:57,350 --> 01:41:51,510
Andrews in a crop circle in 1979 I

1845
01:42:03,070 --> 01:41:57,360
believe I believe so using an app that

1846
01:42:04,689 --> 01:42:03,080
I've just randomly got from Greer after

1847
01:42:08,270 --> 01:42:04,699
Gary McKinnon

1848
01:42:09,830 --> 01:42:08,280
it was pretty random I'm searching for

1849
01:42:13,070 --> 01:42:09,840
this not believing anything at the time

1850
01:42:15,740 --> 01:42:13,080
and I'm here today merely go out the

1851
01:42:20,090 --> 01:42:15,750
field this is the observatory in

1852
01:42:22,640 --> 01:42:20,100
Winchester the planetarium standing here

1853
01:42:24,350 --> 01:42:22,650
in the same tones less than five minutes

1854
01:42:28,430 --> 01:42:24,360
after we've played the codes in the car

1855
01:42:31,850 --> 01:42:28,440
for contact we do this every time and it

1856
01:42:32,390 --> 01:42:31,860
just wrecked my brain what the hell is

1857
01:42:34,580 --> 01:42:32,400
going on

1858
01:42:36,110 --> 01:42:34,590
Lee sites the craft I completely miss it

1859
01:42:39,050 --> 01:42:36,120
by the time I've looked up in the air is

1860
01:42:42,550 --> 01:42:39,060
gone because we're freaked out and

1861
01:42:45,919 --> 01:42:42,560
talking our thought process has stopped

1862
01:42:48,050 --> 01:42:45,929
we've realized now that once we've made

1863
01:42:51,740 --> 01:42:48,060
contact do not stop

1864
01:42:53,870 --> 01:42:51,750
yeah and I know I now understand which

1865
01:42:56,930 --> 01:42:53,880
is why I shall agree I now understand

1866
01:43:02,750 --> 01:42:56,940
why dr. Steven Greer said ask them to

1867
01:43:06,210 --> 01:43:02,760
come closer and they do didn't

1868
01:43:09,570 --> 01:43:06,220
yeah I don't know whether it was in my

1869
01:43:17,430 --> 01:43:09,580
head or around my head yeah I said that

1870
01:43:20,580 --> 01:43:17,440
to me and he's like oh all these things

1871
01:43:23,130 --> 01:43:20,590
and I'm what's up man I'm scared but I

1872
01:43:25,590 --> 01:43:23,140
believe you because I've met you and I

1873
01:43:28,080 --> 01:43:25,600
can see that you are wearing this event

1874
01:43:30,030 --> 01:43:28,090
and your skin I can feel it coming off

1875
01:43:32,130 --> 01:43:30,040
you see it in your voice I can see it in

1876
01:43:35,010 --> 01:43:32,140
your face the way that you tremble in

1877
01:43:37,250 --> 01:43:35,020
you know and you're talking to me it

1878
01:43:40,200 --> 01:43:37,260
it's affecting you still it's still

1879
01:43:43,860 --> 01:43:40,210
reverberating inside you physically I

1880
01:43:45,480 --> 01:43:43,870
know that you saw this I just I'm

1881
01:43:47,250 --> 01:43:45,490
skeptical that it's got anything to do

1882
01:43:50,310 --> 01:43:47,260
with Stephen greener and more to do with

1883
01:43:54,270 --> 01:43:50,320
you but then you know my mind is say

1884
01:43:55,800 --> 01:43:54,280
tones they're everything so that tone it

1885
01:43:58,350 --> 01:43:55,810
could have just had something to do with

1886
01:44:00,330 --> 01:43:58,360
your psyche it's opened you up to

1887
01:44:03,240 --> 01:44:00,340
whatever it is because it's the tone

1888
01:44:06,210 --> 01:44:03,250
that comes with the phenomena so you

1889
01:44:07,650 --> 01:44:06,220
know I don't know that I'm calling it

1890
01:44:09,900 --> 01:44:07,660
with the app but he's got something to

1891
01:44:10,110 --> 01:44:09,910
do with your mind I'm so convinced of

1892
01:44:17,850 --> 01:44:10,120
that

1893
01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:17,860
yes it's attracted to you know yeah this

1894
01:44:24,570 --> 01:44:21,850
toner that's fascinating why I say why

1895
01:44:28,680 --> 01:44:24,580
it's so fascinating is because Colin

1896
01:44:30,780 --> 01:44:28,690
Andrews obviously recorded it and none

1897
01:44:32,340 --> 01:44:30,790
of us are any wiser as to what it was or

1898
01:44:34,800 --> 01:44:32,350
what it means or what that signal was

1899
01:44:36,840 --> 01:44:34,810
what does that term mean yeah why did

1900
01:44:38,970 --> 01:44:36,850
they play it back it was identical and

1901
01:44:41,010 --> 01:44:38,980
in your ears as well and so close to you

1902
01:44:42,540 --> 01:44:41,020
while you were out yeah extremely smooth

1903
01:44:44,280 --> 01:44:42,550
you got you see I've met Lee and I've

1904
01:44:46,170 --> 01:44:44,290
talked to Lee and he doesn't come across

1905
01:44:49,200 --> 01:44:46,180
to me as being a [\h__\h] artist at all

1906
01:44:54,240 --> 01:44:49,210
you know and I know y'all not lying I

1907
01:44:56,340 --> 01:44:54,250
know you know it just gets worse as I go

1908
01:44:58,860 --> 01:44:56,350
along explaining to Colleen I mean we

1909
01:45:03,390 --> 01:44:58,870
ended up this is the Ramban thing here

1910
01:45:06,510 --> 01:45:03,400
we ended up in Winchester knowing

1911
01:45:09,450 --> 01:45:06,520
nothing about there of where it was

1912
01:45:12,510 --> 01:45:09,460
recorded we're less than half a mile

1913
01:45:15,669 --> 01:45:12,520
from it there's two fields distance from

1914
01:45:22,089 --> 01:45:15,679
where it was actually recorded

1915
01:45:23,859 --> 01:45:22,099
that's insane in the locale yeah this is

1916
01:45:25,929 --> 01:45:23,869
another thing with those bloody crop

1917
01:45:27,939 --> 01:45:25,939
circles is that most of I'm a mermaid

1918
01:45:29,589 --> 01:45:27,949
I don't believe every single crop circle

1919
01:45:32,500 --> 01:45:29,599
in the world is mamud I really don't

1920
01:45:34,299 --> 01:45:32,510
believe that no I think I just think

1921
01:45:36,069 --> 01:45:34,309
there's such an industry that depends on

1922
01:45:37,989 --> 01:45:36,079
them down there they're going to appear

1923
01:45:39,969 --> 01:45:37,999
all the time and they need to appear all

1924
01:45:44,219 --> 01:45:39,979
the time people make money out of them

1925
01:45:46,449 --> 01:45:44,229
you know there was something wrong there

1926
01:45:48,699 --> 01:45:46,459
was something wrong in that one

1927
01:45:52,419 --> 01:45:48,709
definitely it's still a design and still

1928
01:45:54,250 --> 01:45:52,429
the frequencies right so I said to Matt

1929
01:45:56,169 --> 01:45:54,260
Williams once I was done like the weird

1930
01:45:58,479 --> 01:45:56,179
weekend in Devon and he was given a talk

1931
01:46:00,609 --> 01:45:58,489
and I asked him where do you get your

1932
01:46:02,529 --> 01:46:00,619
ideas from then he said I don't know and

1933
01:46:04,060 --> 01:46:02,539
a system have you ever had any

1934
01:46:06,609 --> 01:46:04,070
paranormal experiences while you're

1935
01:46:09,339 --> 01:46:06,619
doing it yeah I can't remember he said

1936
01:46:11,709 --> 01:46:09,349
they were but you know there's something

1937
01:46:13,810 --> 01:46:11,719
about them you know but I've seen one

1938
01:46:15,989 --> 01:46:13,820
myself in 1982 in the middle of nowhere

1939
01:46:18,609 --> 01:46:15,999
that nobody ever gave a toss about all

1940
01:46:20,290 --> 01:46:18,619
right next to a farmer's house and it

1941
01:46:23,160 --> 01:46:20,300
wasn't the farmer God knows Alfred

1942
01:46:26,979 --> 01:46:23,170
appeared just three like cookie cutters

1943
01:46:31,080 --> 01:46:26,989
in the field you know no frequencies

1944
01:46:35,379 --> 01:46:31,090
nothing no messages

1945
01:46:39,549 --> 01:46:35,389
yeah leaf leaf felt sick and I was going

1946
01:46:44,310 --> 01:46:39,559
to pass out so whether we should we did

1947
01:46:46,929 --> 01:46:44,320
the c-5 so meditation right so maybe

1948
01:46:49,330 --> 01:46:46,939
there was something there but wasn't

1949
01:46:51,790 --> 01:46:49,340
fully materialized which has just

1950
01:46:54,089 --> 01:46:51,800
reminded me of another one that actually

1951
01:46:57,370 --> 01:46:54,099
scared the living hell out of me I

1952
01:47:01,149 --> 01:46:57,380
walked out to my garden randomly one

1953
01:47:04,149 --> 01:47:01,159
night and could see this crap after less

1954
01:47:07,199 --> 01:47:04,159
than it could have been ten feet away in

1955
01:47:09,879 --> 01:47:07,209
cloak I could see the outline of it

1956
01:47:11,879 --> 01:47:09,889
literally right outside my Bible and

1957
01:47:18,219 --> 01:47:11,889
that scared me to death

1958
01:47:22,140 --> 01:47:18,229
it looked oval possibly a bit yeah

1959
01:47:26,320 --> 01:47:22,150
possibly so I saw a boom around

1960
01:47:28,750 --> 01:47:26,330
boomerang shape I run back

1961
01:47:29,590 --> 01:47:28,760
doors I had a few beers that my man

1962
01:47:31,990 --> 01:47:29,600
there scared me

1963
01:47:38,770 --> 01:47:32,000
that was random I didn't after that

1964
01:47:41,650 --> 01:47:38,780
that's not going as well you know if you

1965
01:47:45,480 --> 01:47:41,660
start looking without your app try it

1966
01:47:48,520 --> 01:47:45,490
about you and yeah I actually filmed one

1967
01:47:55,410 --> 01:47:48,530
a couple of weeks ago that we couldn't

1968
01:47:57,250 --> 01:47:55,420
see that was a first I looked on the

1969
01:47:57,940 --> 01:47:57,260
satellite track and there was no

1970
01:48:01,720 --> 01:47:57,950
satellites

1971
01:48:03,400 --> 01:48:01,730
it wasn't the ISS none of us could see

1972
01:48:05,470 --> 01:48:03,410
it there was four of us there to my

1973
01:48:09,250 --> 01:48:05,480
daughter and her friend and leave us out

1974
01:48:10,930 --> 01:48:09,260
there as well yeah it was totally

1975
01:48:15,490 --> 01:48:10,940
invisible but the night vision saw it

1976
01:48:21,570 --> 01:48:15,500
just that was odd and it looks identical

1977
01:48:28,780 --> 01:48:25,330
strange video but I've also got another

1978
01:48:31,510 --> 01:48:28,790
one on there that I filmed outside my

1979
01:48:34,240 --> 01:48:31,520
back door after just the meditation no

1980
01:48:41,140 --> 01:48:34,250
tones or anything like that I walk

1981
01:48:44,950 --> 01:48:41,150
outside and and there's it looked three

1982
01:48:49,420 --> 01:48:44,960
to four feet wide at least maybe a

1983
01:48:52,450 --> 01:48:49,430
thousand feet maybe higher maybe I'm

1984
01:48:55,630 --> 01:48:52,460
filming filming the larger craft and I

1985
01:48:59,860 --> 01:48:55,640
don't see anything else going on between

1986
01:49:02,830 --> 01:48:59,870
there but I see flashes very my new

1987
01:49:05,050 --> 01:49:02,840
flashes around the larger craft on the

1988
01:49:07,960 --> 01:49:05,060
camera at the time I don't see what's

1989
01:49:10,660 --> 01:49:07,970
actually going on another craft enters

1990
01:49:13,630 --> 01:49:10,670
the frame bottom right-hand side take

1991
01:49:17,380 --> 01:49:13,640
two shots at the larger one or flashes

1992
01:49:22,120 --> 01:49:17,390
twice there's two options turns around

1993
01:49:23,860 --> 01:49:22,130
and zips back out the way it came in but

1994
01:49:26,050 --> 01:49:23,870
that didn't happen just once it happened

1995
01:49:27,670 --> 01:49:26,060
twice there's one above it as well it

1996
01:49:31,590 --> 01:49:27,680
does the same thing checking it out and

1997
01:49:36,340 --> 01:49:31,600
then zips off again video I was only

1998
01:49:36,970 --> 01:49:36,350
this is on YouTube oh it looks like it

1999
01:49:38,680 --> 01:49:36,980
to me

2000
01:49:40,240 --> 01:49:38,690
and everyone else has pointed out that

2001
01:49:42,280 --> 01:49:40,250
looks like it takes two shot

2002
01:49:44,110 --> 01:49:42,290
this is something out of Star Wars where

2003
01:49:53,160 --> 01:49:44,120
did you get that from the filmed in the

2004
01:50:01,900 --> 01:49:56,650
something's going on Oh insane oh god

2005
01:50:04,000 --> 01:50:01,910
yeah are you actually firing yeah I mean

2006
01:50:05,020 --> 01:50:04,010
that you know we stuff up there and all

2007
01:50:07,330 --> 01:50:05,030
these little flashes there with you

2008
01:50:10,180 --> 01:50:07,340
that's not going to be necessarily the

2009
01:50:12,520 --> 01:50:10,190
clunky kinetic weapons that we have down

2010
01:50:16,120 --> 01:50:12,530
here it's going to be some sort of

2011
01:50:19,510 --> 01:50:16,130
plasma technology that yes so quick as

2012
01:50:22,540 --> 01:50:19,520
well very quick but you see the points

2013
01:50:25,420 --> 01:50:22,550
of light in either flashes or takes two

2014
01:50:25,720 --> 01:50:25,430
shots it's not as clear but you can see

2015
01:50:28,060 --> 01:50:25,730
it

2016
01:50:31,990 --> 01:50:28,070
those are focused once or twice but you

2017
01:50:33,790 --> 01:50:32,000
can actually see all three of them and

2018
01:50:40,020 --> 01:50:33,800
these are not bad because birds don't

2019
01:50:43,420 --> 01:50:40,030
flash today mistaken for V ships

2020
01:50:48,580 --> 01:50:43,430
don't Lewin crafts with lights on yeah

2021
01:50:51,970 --> 01:50:48,590
absolutely I saw out of the corner of my

2022
01:50:54,400 --> 01:50:51,980
eye to my right and I was half leaving

2023
01:50:56,200 --> 01:50:54,410
my seats are running to the house when

2024
01:50:59,530 --> 01:50:56,210
he went overhead and I realized it was

2025
01:51:01,060 --> 01:50:59,540
geese and it was the streetlights street

2026
01:51:02,380 --> 01:51:01,070
lights shining on the underbellies of

2027
01:51:07,500 --> 01:51:02,390
the geese that were flying in formation

2028
01:51:11,020 --> 01:51:07,510
at night but I saw in my mind a v-shaped

2029
01:51:24,100 --> 01:51:11,030
craft with orange lights on it just out

2030
01:51:27,460 --> 01:51:24,110
the condom eyes I don't even like going

2031
01:51:30,850 --> 01:51:27,470
out and look at this guy anymore you

2032
01:51:34,810 --> 01:51:30,860
know I have to for some reason yeah we

2033
01:51:37,660 --> 01:51:34,820
were clearly or I was clearly told to go

2034
01:51:39,790 --> 01:51:37,670
there I've ended up in the same place as

2035
01:51:43,630 --> 01:51:39,800
the tones were recorded Matt that is

2036
01:51:45,670 --> 01:51:43,640
really weird that that is just well and

2037
01:51:50,470 --> 01:51:45,680
we've heard the tones literally played

2038
01:51:53,740 --> 01:51:50,480
in our ears or in our heads the same map

2039
01:51:57,490 --> 01:51:53,750
we didn't know collared and routed from

2040
01:52:01,210 --> 01:51:57,500
across there well and it cheese 4head we

2041
01:52:06,360 --> 01:52:01,220
were shot at that was that was fun

2042
01:52:10,810 --> 01:52:06,370
um as far as we can tell the farmer oh

2043
01:52:17,350 --> 01:52:10,820
[\h__\h] yeah boys Oh God

2044
01:52:19,990 --> 01:52:17,360
we were running down that was awesome

2045
01:52:25,260 --> 01:52:20,000
that night we was asked should say Lee

2046
01:52:32,230 --> 01:52:29,770
one minute before this I was pointing in

2047
01:52:34,120 --> 01:52:32,240
the field and saying luckily they're

2048
01:52:36,160 --> 01:52:34,130
flashing back right there mate right

2049
01:52:38,440 --> 01:52:36,170
there and they're flashing back at us in

2050
01:52:42,070 --> 01:52:38,450
the field and I'm shining Beckett but

2051
01:52:43,540 --> 01:52:42,080
the laser and it's responding so I was

2052
01:52:45,460 --> 01:52:43,550
still pointing but Lee can't see it

2053
01:52:47,410 --> 01:52:45,470
because he's looking in the camera so I

2054
01:52:51,370 --> 01:52:47,420
said point your camera in that direction

2055
01:52:55,240 --> 01:52:51,380
you'll catch it trust me he takes three

2056
01:52:57,700 --> 01:52:55,250
shots in sequence and catches a six-inch

2057
01:52:59,980 --> 01:52:57,710
I say six inch because I can look to the

2058
01:53:03,130 --> 01:52:59,990
left-hand side and there's a three inch

2059
01:53:05,830 --> 01:53:03,140
railing three by one piece of timber so

2060
01:53:07,470 --> 01:53:05,840
the timber is three inches tall wide

2061
01:53:12,580 --> 01:53:07,480
sorry

2062
01:53:15,010 --> 01:53:12,590
this creature object or being I call it

2063
01:53:19,030 --> 01:53:15,020
a light being because we've caught many

2064
01:53:20,950 --> 01:53:19,040
of them six inches tall right in front

2065
01:53:24,190 --> 01:53:20,960
of us that it flashes from the field

2066
01:53:26,050 --> 01:53:24,200
where I'm pointing straight towards the

2067
01:53:29,830 --> 01:53:26,060
camera and then goes back to the field

2068
01:53:34,930 --> 01:53:29,840
in a matter of seconds and Lee catches

2069
01:53:41,260 --> 01:53:34,940
all three I thought that was amazing at

2070
01:53:44,770 --> 01:53:41,270
the same place as we were shot it farms

2071
01:53:48,940 --> 01:53:44,780
that seemed to be a life in themselves

2072
01:53:51,340 --> 01:53:48,950
somehow yeah and but the funny thing is

2073
01:53:55,360 --> 01:53:51,350
they were circular to my eyes in the

2074
01:54:03,300 --> 01:53:55,370
film so that they manifest into whatever

2075
01:54:05,830 --> 01:54:03,310
they like now I guess great questions

2076
01:54:06,400 --> 01:54:05,840
I've got some fantastic questions and

2077
01:54:09,310 --> 01:54:06,410
never going to

2078
01:54:12,780 --> 01:54:09,320
answered you know people say when you

2079
01:54:18,940 --> 01:54:12,790
die you'll know it all a bloody bad oh

2080
01:54:20,620 --> 01:54:18,950
yeah we'll be one of them all be for

2081
01:54:22,120 --> 01:54:20,630
nothing you know I just keep thinking to

2082
01:54:23,640 --> 01:54:22,130
myself it can't all be for nothing it

2083
01:54:26,110 --> 01:54:23,650
can't be for nothing

2084
01:54:27,370 --> 01:54:26,120
you know otherwise everybody else that

2085
01:54:29,500 --> 01:54:27,380
we go through it as well there's got to

2086
01:54:32,740 --> 01:54:29,510
be some reason but you know that maybe

2087
01:54:37,150 --> 01:54:32,750
me just been desperately trying to give

2088
01:54:41,290 --> 01:54:37,160
my nonsense some sort of meaning so you

2089
01:54:43,410 --> 01:54:41,300
know I'm carry on rocking far away

2090
01:54:47,350 --> 01:54:43,420
through life because you know it is a

2091
01:54:49,240 --> 01:54:47,360
creative maker is this and then people

2092
01:54:53,190 --> 01:54:49,250
that you crazy as well because they're

2093
01:54:55,510 --> 01:54:53,200
just so bloody vicious and unnecessary

2094
01:54:57,160 --> 01:54:55,520
you know it's like yeah well there's

2095
01:55:00,970 --> 01:54:57,170
nobody going to question my son as he as

2096
01:55:03,370 --> 01:55:00,980
much as I ever have I'll show you how up

2097
01:55:05,260 --> 01:55:03,380
in there and on there you know is it me

2098
01:55:08,680 --> 01:55:05,270
am i nuts or am i losing the plot or

2099
01:55:11,410 --> 01:55:08,690
what no no because I'm showing other

2100
01:55:13,690 --> 01:55:11,420
people no I have been to so many doctors

2101
01:55:15,460 --> 01:55:13,700
and therapists I even put myself in a

2102
01:55:18,370 --> 01:55:15,470
psychiatric ward because I assumed that

2103
01:55:20,230 --> 01:55:18,380
I must be schizophrenic I have tried to

2104
01:55:22,120 --> 01:55:20,240
convince I don't even know how many

2105
01:55:24,130 --> 01:55:22,130
doctors therapists specialists but

2106
01:55:27,550 --> 01:55:24,140
there's something wrong with me that was

2107
01:55:29,530 --> 01:55:27,560
I'm a crazy person you know mentally

2108
01:55:32,860 --> 01:55:29,540
there's something going on or you know

2109
01:55:36,580 --> 01:55:32,870
I've got some kind of mental illness

2110
01:55:38,650 --> 01:55:36,590
that's making me got all this and see

2111
01:55:40,990 --> 01:55:38,660
all this and it just makes you feel

2112
01:55:43,840 --> 01:55:41,000
crazy I'm not actually crazy and it

2113
01:55:45,670 --> 01:55:43,850
doesn't last one she said to me Sasha

2114
01:55:47,080 --> 01:55:45,680
there's no cure for summit a you're just

2115
01:55:49,680 --> 01:55:47,090
gonna have to learn to live in your own

2116
01:55:52,920 --> 01:55:49,690
skin I was like oh why do you go from

2117
01:55:55,420 --> 01:55:52,930
[Laughter]

2118
01:55:59,140 --> 01:55:55,430
I'm assuming they're there they're there

2119
01:56:02,040 --> 01:55:59,150
for me yeah it certainly works whatever

2120
01:56:08,200 --> 01:56:05,410
yeah I agree it's not the app it's it's

2121
01:56:10,570 --> 01:56:08,210
the person yeah all the people got

2122
01:56:14,350 --> 01:56:10,580
triggered something in you you know in

2123
01:56:18,100 --> 01:56:14,360
your car to kick out the right thought

2124
01:56:19,190 --> 01:56:18,110
happen wave energy whatever it is that

2125
01:56:27,710 --> 01:56:19,200
we send out

2126
01:56:29,270 --> 01:56:27,720
Oh Oh in 2014 I did because he it was

2127
01:56:32,750 --> 01:56:29,280
almost like he knew it was there he went

2128
01:56:35,540 --> 01:56:32,760
looking for a yeah I mean I was totally

2129
01:56:39,650 --> 01:56:35,550
oblivious I would never have even

2130
01:56:41,540 --> 01:56:39,660
thought about it you know so just some

2131
01:56:46,210 --> 01:56:41,550
that's what makes me think again we're

2132
01:56:48,830 --> 01:56:46,220
not in control they did that yeah yeah

2133
01:56:52,310 --> 01:56:48,840
something takes over it's very peaceful

2134
01:56:54,320 --> 01:56:52,320
and calm and it's very but something

2135
01:56:58,280 --> 01:56:54,330
happens that's worrying isn't it because

2136
01:57:00,020 --> 01:56:58,290
that's so sneak a very I go very

2137
01:57:00,620 --> 01:57:00,030
childish it's like oh I'm young again

2138
01:57:12,560 --> 01:57:00,630
yeah

2139
01:57:15,200 --> 01:57:12,570
without thinking wow well we've actually

2140
01:57:18,140 --> 01:57:15,210
come to the end of the show now Darrin

2141
01:57:27,410 --> 01:57:18,150
can you believe it I could probably keep

2142
01:57:28,940 --> 01:57:27,420
going I told you flies definitely wants

2143
01:57:31,150 --> 01:57:28,950
to talk to you more about all this I'm

2144
01:57:33,260 --> 01:57:31,160
going to check out your videos as well I

2145
01:57:35,300 --> 01:57:33,270
can't believe it I don't actually don't

2146
01:57:38,180 --> 01:57:35,310
know until now so scattered I've got

2147
01:57:40,550 --> 01:57:38,190
that much going on you know try and keep

2148
01:57:43,480 --> 01:57:40,560
on top of everything but if I wasn't

2149
01:57:45,710 --> 01:57:43,490
such a scatterbrain and we have such a

2150
01:57:51,290 --> 01:57:45,720
hectic life with the kids and everything

2151
01:57:52,550 --> 01:57:51,300
and me being hectic myself because I

2152
01:57:54,440 --> 01:57:52,560
don't know if that made me hyperactive

2153
01:57:57,680 --> 01:57:54,450
or if I've always been hired for outside

2154
01:57:59,330 --> 01:57:57,690
well certainly am now and thanks ever so

2155
01:58:01,340 --> 01:57:59,340
much for coming on and talking because I

2156
01:58:03,590 --> 01:58:01,350
know how you know nervous you were and I

2157
01:58:05,960 --> 01:58:03,600
know how it makes you feel and I it

2158
01:58:08,390 --> 01:58:05,970
brings a lot back doesn't it mm-hmm

2159
01:58:11,600 --> 01:58:08,400
Jenni don't but you got through it great

2160
01:58:12,890 --> 01:58:11,610
and you know I really enjoy talking to

2161
01:58:15,320 --> 01:58:12,900
you and I'm sure that everybody's going

2162
01:58:17,480 --> 01:58:15,330
to really enjoy listening see and

2163
01:58:19,940 --> 01:58:17,490
appreciate you know what you've been

2164
01:58:22,100 --> 01:58:19,950
through even if they don't believe that

2165
01:58:24,920 --> 01:58:22,110
Greer's app does anything you know the

2166
01:58:27,710 --> 01:58:24,930
car well some people would argue Bach is

2167
01:58:32,360 --> 01:58:27,720
why yeah I actually that's what created

2168
01:58:33,320 --> 01:58:32,370
what I believe you anyone who meets will

2169
01:58:37,729 --> 01:58:33,330
fee

2170
01:58:39,800 --> 01:58:37,739
coming off yeah that's for sure so you

2171
01:58:41,150 --> 01:58:39,810
know if you know if anybody gets a

2172
01:58:43,850 --> 01:58:41,160
chance to go out so many conferences

2173
01:58:46,970 --> 01:58:43,860
that Darren might be there just go see

2174
01:58:49,459 --> 01:58:46,980
for yourself you know thanks Darren